thepundit Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 2 hours ago, nsr said: All that shows is that Celtic fans only care about winning as long as it involves beating Rangers, and vice versa. The rest of Scottish football literally could not care less which one of them outdoes the other. I think what the comments from Lennon and Deila show is that football fans in general didn't think Celtic had a challenge and therefore their achievements were somewhat diminished. I mentioned the TV companies also but you didn't really respond to that point. If memory serves they wanted to pay a lot less unless Rangers games were included. And even then it was on reduced terms was it not? Also, didn't the league have no sponsor for two seasons whilst Rangers weren't in the league? If the league didn't lose any value, why did this happen? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, thepundit said: I think what the comments from Lennon and Deila show is that football fans in general didn't think Celtic had a challenge and therefore their achievements were somewhat diminished. I mentioned the TV companies also but you didn't really respond to that point. If memory serves they wanted to pay a lot less unless Rangers games were included. And even then it was on reduced terms was it not? Also, didn't the league have no sponsor for two seasons whilst Rangers weren't in the league? If the league didn't lose any value, why did this happen? I imagine a lot of that was down to the fact Neil Doncaster, who negotiates those deals, publicly said Scottish football would die if Rangers weren't put in the second tier. Unsurprisingly, every sponsor he approached either rejected him, or ripped the absolute pish with the money they offered. Hes to blame for that, nobody else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Because TV companies are catering for people who'd rather sit on their arse at home than actually go to games. Non-Cheek supporters tend to go to games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiekranky Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, thepundit said: I think what the comments from Lennon and Deila show is that football fans in general didn't think Celtic had a challenge and therefore their achievements were somewhat diminished. I mentioned the TV companies also but you didn't really respond to that point. If memory serves they wanted to pay a lot less unless Rangers games were included. And even then it was on reduced terms was it not? Also, didn't the league have no sponsor for two seasons whilst Rangers weren't in the league? If the league didn't lose any value, why did this happen? Look there is no nice way to say this, you weren't missed, deal with it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 43 minutes ago, killiekranky said: The Big House must stay disordered ! Do you think The Big House is XXXXL or just XXXL? Seems appropriate somehow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Oh well if the tv companies said so [emoji1] Why is anyone engaging with this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 3 hours ago, thepundit said: I mentioned the TV companies also but you didn't really respond to that point. If memory serves they wanted to pay a lot less unless Rangers games were included. And even then it was on reduced terms was it not? Also, didn't the league have no sponsor for two seasons whilst Rangers weren't in the league? If the league didn't lose any value, why did this happen? You measure value in a different way from some of us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 Well it's been a quiet week in Sevconia and a bit of a mixed one at that on the park. We played some tidy stuff for half an hour against Dundee but we let them off the hook and 4-0 was a poor return. On the plus side, I suppose we owe them that for 'stealing' Kamara for £50k. "Hit the ground running" has never been a more apt phrase - and he and Jack look like they've been playing together for years rather than 4 games. Has anyone watched any of the GoPro reviews the club's been doing on the Youtube channel? Here's the one from Dundee: You have to be a fucking mentalist to be a goalie! Off the park, our minority shareholder and club chairman has satisfied the takeover panel so that's another irritation dealt with. So to The Ewe Camp on Sunday (Not for me, obviously. I'll stick with my £5.99 ticket for Rangers TV). The Rampant Accies pretty-much cemented our position as vice-champions with their demolition of Aberdeen but Sunday's cup match will be different. Here's The Gaffer: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Let me know when that is Rob. I’d like to send a congratulations card. Just a quiet nod of acceptance will suffice. Cheers Rab [emoji6] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 article about Fernado Ricksen in The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/mar/01/fernando-ricksen-rangers-netherlands-motor-neurone-disease 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naegoodinthedark Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 article about Fernado Ricksen in The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/mar/01/fernando-ricksen-rangers-netherlands-motor-neurone-diseaseReally good article. Difficult read though. Truly awful disease. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 With most neutral observers recognising that at LEAST four of them are pretty much worthless. Because Rangers were financially fucked? Surely a few of your own club's 9IAR are similarly tainted as Celtic were a financial basket case for a portion of that time? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 27 minutes ago, jupe1407 said: On 28/02/2019 at 19:27, RedRob72 said: With most neutral observers recognising that at LEAST four of them are pretty much worthless. Because Rangers were financially fucked? Surely a few of your own club's 9IAR are similarly tainted as Celtic were a financial basket case for a portion of that time? No. Because they were cheating with dual contracts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 On 01/03/2019 at 18:58, RandomGuy. said: I imagine a lot of that was down to the fact Neil Doncaster, who negotiates those deals, publicly said Scottish football would die if Rangers weren't put in the second tier. Unsurprisingly, every sponsor he approached either rejected him, or ripped the absolute pish with the money they offered. Hes to blame for that, nobody else. He's partially to blame, but negotiating a TV deal on the same terms or higher whilst Rangers weren't in the league seems an impossible job for anyone. This clearly shows the league was devalued. On 01/03/2019 at 18:58, nsr said: Because TV companies are catering for people who'd rather sit on their arse at home than actually go to games. Non-Cheek supporters tend to go to games. The money is still distributed amongst all 12 clubs regardless so your point, despite being inaccurate, isn't really relevant anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, thepundit said: The money is still distributed amongst all 12 clubs regardless so your point, despite being inaccurate, isn't really relevant anyway. ALL 12 clubs? I thought 42 comprise the structure of which Rangers are a part? And it's not as if it's distributed evenly, is it now? Anyway, don't you think even OF fans need competitions involving lots of clubs to lend their clubs' fixtures some meaning? Edited March 2, 2019 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daydream Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 With most neutral observers recognising that at LEAST four of them are pretty much worthless. Not their fault you c***s got binned for being liquidated. EBT cheats. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Because Rangers were financially fucked? Surely a few of your own club's 9IAR are similarly tainted as Celtic were a financial basket case for a portion of that time? Hardly comparable, they were close to the wire, but didn’t suffer the ignominy of actually going bust, weren’t liquidated, dropped into the bottom tier or lose almost their *entire squad. (*which in itself perhaps makes our current resurgence as a Football Club even more remarkable) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 3 hours ago, thepundit said: The money is still distributed amongst all 12 clubs regardless so your point, despite being inaccurate, isn't really relevant anyway. I'm not sure why you've suddenly brought up the distribution of money. I thought you were talking about the TV companies showing less interest in the Scottish top flight after Rangers died and before Sevco made their first appearance there. My point was that this is due to the TV companies' primary audience being lazy arseholes who'd rather sit at home and watch one or both Cheeks on telly rather than go out to watch a local team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Hardly comparable, they were close to the wire, but didn’t suffer the ignominy of actually going bust, weren’t liquidated, dropped into the bottom tier or lose almost their *entire squad. (*which in itself perhaps makes our current resurgence as a Football Club even more remarkable)There is absolutely nothing remarkable about any "resurgence".Not one single thing, except maybe the fact that yous havent managed a trophy. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Monkey Tennis said: ALL 12 clubs? I thought 42 comprise the structure of which Rangers are a part? And it's not as if it's distributed evenly, is it now? Anyway, don't you think even OF fans need competitions involving lots of clubs to lend their clubs' fixtures some meaning? Yes, all 12 clubs as the discussion was about the top league. Whether the money is distributed evenly is another conversation. One things for sure, it wouldn't be as much without Rangers games included which proves the Premiership was devalued in Rangers' absence. In regards to games having meaning, that's a separate issue to the financial impact. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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