AJF Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, kingjoey said: Given the nature of the foul, it is abundantly clear that the referee did not see the incident clearly, and therefore your first sentence is incorrect. Given the referee's position and the fact that he booked Roofe for the challenge means it is far from abundantly clear he never seen it. My view is the referee cocked up, and this "referee never seen it clearly" excuse is used by the SFA to retrospectively cite players without admitting the referee got it wrong at the time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyFerrino Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 55 minutes ago, kingjoey said: Why did he not just accept the punishment for an awful foul, and move on? Because he's an entitled, torn faced, Scouse w**k? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big al Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Hard neck moaning about retrospective punishment. Keeps 11 on the pitch to win the game at the time. Would think somebody of his standing in the game would realise to keep the head down and take the breaks when you get them. Started his managerial career embarrassing himself with rants about referees, seems he can’t change his spots after all. Watch out for the slippy patches just before the halfway line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, big al said: Hard neck moaning about retrospective punishment. Keeps 11 on the pitch to win the game at the time. Would think somebody of his standing in the game would realise to keep the head down and take the breaks when you get them. Started his managerial career embarrassing himself with rants about referees, seems he can’t change his spots after all. Watch out for the slippy patches just before the halfway line. Just accept being treated differently to the other 11 clubs in the league and accept a serious disadvantage? Retrospective punishment can only be used if the incident has been missed by the officials, rules are not being followed in order to ban our players. Trial by media which see's one team disproportionately cited compared to other teams. Aye we should just accept it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 26 minutes ago, AJF said: Given the referee's position and the fact that he booked Roofe for the challenge means it is far from abundantly clear he never seen it. My view is the referee cocked up, and this "referee never seen it clearly" excuse is used by the SFA to retrospectively cite players without admitting the referee got it wrong at the time. It’s a conspiracy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, kingjoey said: It’s a conspiracy. I've never claimed it is a conspiracy. I can see the merits in people's argument stating Rangers benefitted from keeping Roofe on the park so don't try and put words in my mouth. I'm simply agreeing with Gerrard that the disciplinary system is extremely inconsistent. I've yet to be convinced otherwise given the amount of incidents that go unpunished compared to others. I've given examples of these incidents yet nobody appears to be contradicting me with opposing views on them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, AJF said: I've never claimed it is a conspiracy. I can see the merits in people's argument stating Rangers benefitted from keeping Roofe on the park so don't try and put words in my mouth. I'm simply agreeing with Gerrard that the disciplinary system is extremely inconsistent. I've yet to be convinced otherwise given the amount of incidents that go unpunished compared to others. I've given examples of these incidents yet nobody appears to be contradicting me with opposing views on them. Ok then, the only one that I remember is Curtis Main’s challenge, and if we had VAR he may have been sent off, but probably not. The three incidents that have gone against Rangers players this season, had we had VAR they would all have been sent off on one look at the footage. That’s the difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big al Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, bennett said: Just accept being treated differently to the other 11 clubs in the league and accept a serious disadvantage? Retrospective punishment can only be used if the incident has been missed by the officials, rules are not being followed in order to ban our players. Trial by media which see's one team disproportionately cited compared to other teams. Aye we should just accept it. Any of the bans your players have received are fully deserved. Remember McGregor wildly going through Ferguson with his studs at Pittodrie couple of years ago. You wouldn’t have won that game if the ref had acted but he didn’t at the time. The list is long. Get your own house in order first. Gerrard letting himself down to be honest. Must frustrate you though the amount of times that Scott Brown has escaped retrospective punishment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, kingjoey said: Ok then, the only one that I remember is Curtis Main’s challenge, and if we had VAR he may have been sent off, but probably not. The three incidents that have gone against Rangers players this season, had we had VAR they would all have been sent off on one look at the footage. That’s the difference. VAR would affect every team and we'd have consistency. That wouldn't see any complaints from me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, bennett said: Just accept being treated differently to the other 11 clubs in the league and accept a serious disadvantage? Retrospective punishment can only be used if the incident has been missed by the officials, rules are not being followed in order to ban our players. Trial by media which see's one team disproportionately cited compared to other teams. Aye we should just accept it. Jesus suffering f**k. 'One team' is disproportionately cited compared to other teams because 'one team' gets away with a disproportionate amount of onfield incidents. Edited February 12, 2021 by Merkland Red 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, kingjoey said: Ok then, the only one that I remember is Curtis Main’s challenge, and if we had VAR he may have been sent off, but probably not. The three incidents that have gone against Rangers players this season, had we had VAR they would all have been sent off on one look at the footage. That’s the difference. If you genuinely feel there have been no other incidents worthy of a red card or retrospective action this season other than those committed by Rangers then I feel we will need to agree to disagree and call it a day there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Merkland Red said: Jesus suffering f**k. 'One team' is disproportionately cited compared to other teams because 'one team' gets away with a disproportionate amount of onfield incidents. No one has limited this to two teams, we're discussing consistency within the league. You were putting words in my mouth there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, bennett said: No one has limited this to two teams, we're discussing consistency within the league. You were putting words in my mouth there. I didn't limit it to two teams. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Merkland Red said: I didn't limit it to two teams. Just noticed your edit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, AJF said: Given the referee's position and the fact that he booked Roofe for the challenge means it is far from abundantly clear he never seen it. Spot the referee... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, bennett said: VAR would affect every team and we'd have consistency. That wouldn't see any complaints from me. Have you seen any of the shite decisions made by the VAR in England? If you haven’t, believe me you don’t want any VARs anywhere near Scottish football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, AJF said: If you genuinely feel there have been no other incidents worthy of a red card or retrospective action this season other than those committed by Rangers then I feel we will need to agree to disagree and call it a day there. You will note that I said the only one that I can remember. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 13 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Spot the referee... I thought you had written spot the difference and I was looking for the second photo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Not a great look, considering he seems to have covered literally every game at Ibrox for years, and has multiple interviews with those within the club every month too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 What's the Athletic? If he's a ' proper' journalist then it's not right considering Mark Dingwall has been attending games all season for a podcast. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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