Jinky67 Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, Forever_blueco said: see to be honest again I couldn’t care less what you think . I have condemned the bench incident at the time and still do just now as I do any sort of needless vandalism . all I done was point out that no war memorial was vandalised as poster originally pointed out at the beginning of this mind numbing debate If you really don't care you wouldn't feel the need to point out all you done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 2 hours ago, AJF said: Haha, get the fishing rod away. You don’t think that if Gerrard was so concerned about Patterson’s probable Scotland career he should have allowed him a few games before the end of the season? That would have happened if Rangers hadn’t appealed the suspensions, which were always going to be implemented. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever_blueco Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 40 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: If you really don't care you wouldn't feel the need to point out all you done. Hoping you would see sense in how pointless your argument is but it didn’t work c’est la vie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Forever_blueco said: Only reason I can think Morelos was subbed was he was on a booking and seemed in one of they moods. But the way the game was planning out I would have still risked keeping him on Saving him for the semi. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever_blueco Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 25 minutes ago, Drew Brees said: Saving him for the semi. It very well could have been 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 1 hour ago, kingjoey said: You don’t think that if Gerrard was so concerned about Patterson’s probable Scotland career he should have allowed him a few games before the end of the season? That would have happened if Rangers hadn’t appealed the suspensions, which were always going to be implemented. Patterson probably got more game time due to it as it coincided with Taverniers injury. Now Tavernier is fit again, Patterson would’ve likely seen less game time in the coming weeks anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, AJF said: Patterson probably got more game time due to it as it coincided with Taverniers injury. Now Tavernier is fit again, Patterson would’ve likely seen less game time in the coming weeks anyway. Patterson might be a better option as your penalty taker? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 10 hours ago, kingjoey said: Patterson might be a better option as your penalty taker? Having a guy that’s now missed 8 penalties in c. 2 years was a strange decision to take your first penalty in an important shoot-out that’s for sure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Grangemouth Bairn said: Having a guy that’s now missed 8 penalties in c. 2 years was a strange decision to take your first penalty in an important shoot-out that’s for sure. You have to put that into context as they get at least 700 a season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Is Patterson just being sent to the pub for the next three weeks? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 25 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: You have to put that into context as they get at least 700 a season. Yes, but surely you don’t put a guy with a questionable penalty record into the position where he’s taking such an important spot kick ?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 56 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said: Having a guy that’s now missed 8 penalties in c. 2 years was a strange decision to take your first penalty in an important shoot-out that’s for sure. Tavernier has scored 29 penalties and missed 8 in his career. 29/37 = 78% conversion rate Average penalty conversion rate for penalty takers (so not including shoot outs) = 78% 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Confirmation that 'Tav' is distinctly average. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, G51 said: Tavernier has scored 29 penalties and missed 8 in his career. 29/37 = 78% conversion rate Average penalty conversion rate for penalty takers (so not including shoot outs) = 78% Impressive, a penalty in every game for a full season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 13 hours ago, Drew Brees said: Saving him for the semi. This time next year he'll maybe be suspended. Gutting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sortmeout Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Scotland really need to get Patterson in the squad and playing ASAP before England, France or Germany start to look for relatives of his from their own country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, G51 said: Tavernier has scored 29 penalties and missed 8 in his career. 29/37 = 78% conversion rate Average penalty conversion rate for penalty takers (so not including shoot outs) = 78% Interesting as that’s a better % than both Defoe and Barisic over their careers who both scored. Clearly an issue with mentality/bottle then is what you are suggesting ?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said: Interesting as that’s a better % than both Defoe and Barisic over their careers who both scored. Clearly an issue with mentality/bottle then is what you are suggesting ?? I’m suggesting it’s an issue with people not really understanding how often penalties are scored 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said: Interesting as that’s a better % than both Defoe and Barisic over their careers who both scored. Clearly an issue with mentality/bottle then is what you are suggesting ?? It’s absolutely a mentality issue. Performance in the cup competitions should tell them that and why anyone making comparisons to Brendan Rodgers team are significantly wide of the mark. Big pressure moments particularly in domestic knockout competitions there seems to be something that stops them progressing. In Europe they do better but is that because the weight of expectation on the players is less? I’ve seen comments made about how the league is priority and cups come 2nd to Europe. That’s a small club mindset and successful and dominant teams just want to win and when they don’t they care, they care a lot. Just look at Peps City, to many they see the Carabao as the diddy cup to him it’s a meaningful trophy which helps their players retain that winning mentality and why he takes it seriously. Yes Rangers have won the league at a canter but it’s still 1 trophy out of 9 so when they hysteria dies down after trophy day and they reflect back is just the 1 trophy good enough? Edited April 27, 2021 by Jinky67 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: It’s absolutely a mentality issue. Performance in the cup competitions should tell them that and why anyone making comparisons to Brendan Rodgers team are significantly wide of the mark. I’ve seen comments made about how the league is priority and cups come 2nd to Europe. That’s a small club mindset and successful and dominant teams just want to win and when they don’t they care, they care a lot. Just look at Peps City, to many they see the Carabao as the diddy cup to him it’s a meaningful trophy which helps their players retain that winning mentality and why he takes it seriously. Yes Rangers have won the league at a canter but it’s still 1 trophy out of 9 so when they hysteria dies down after trophy day and they reflect back is just the 1 trophy good enough? It’s clearly not a mentality issue. Mentality issues among professional footballers are extremely rare and would likely result in players being unable to succeed as professional footballers. Every study ever conducted has found that “bottle” simply doesn’t exist in football. It’s pseudoscience. Its also very funny to use Man City as an example of a team that prioritise the cups. Man City of course have famously underachieved in Europe and its well known that the CL is the trophy they’ve been after for years. They’ve also treated the cups with such respect that Ederson hasn’t played a single minute in one this year. Cups are fine and it’s nice to win them, but if you don’t and you win the league then they simply don’t matter. Our 07/08 quadruple season is regarded as ending in failure and we won both cups. This season was the league title that mattered the most, the generational title that will be talked about for years. Celtics team of proven winners completely crumbled and Rangers are yet to be beaten. How’s that for the mentality narrative? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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