Baxter Parp Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/28/theresa-may-concedes-on-eu-migrants-residency-rights-during-brexit-transition Theresa May concedes on EU migrants' residency rights during Brexit transition Inevitable really. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/925227/brexit-news-european-union-common-fisheries-policy-defra-minister-george-eustice My great hope for Brexit is that the fisherman are the worst off. Smelly b*****ds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/28/theresa-may-concedes-on-eu-migrants-residency-rights-during-brexit-transition Theresa May concedes on EU migrants' residency rights during Brexit transition Inevitable really. Did she not already concede this in December. Looks like a Labour leaning paper is just stirring the 'May Weak' pot here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Cerberus said: https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/925227/brexit-news-european-union-common-fisheries-policy-defra-minister-george-eustice My great hope for Brexit is that the fisherman are the worst off. Smelly b*****ds. The Norwegian fishermen demanded to stay out of their EU deal, and got it. Woke up the next morning and found out any fish they sell to EU countries has a 25% tariff (I think) attached. Doh! Trying to get back in now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 4 hours ago, welshbairn said: The Norwegian fishermen demanded to stay out of their EU deal, and got it. Woke up the next morning and found out any fish they sell to EU countries has a 25% tariff (I think) attached. Doh! Trying to get back in now. Just had a wee look at this issue online, seems the big tariffs are on processed fish. As a result there is virtually no fish processing done in Norway apart for their domestic market. So U.K. fishermen may be OKish, but many fish processing jobs may go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Wee Dr Zaius getting wired into the drinks cabinet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 8 hours ago, JamieThomas said: Wee Dr Zaius getting wired into the drinks cabinet. We should test her theory out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 Donald Tusk saying no customs union, no frictionless borders. Complete common sense; but the UK Gov just can't grasp this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: Donald Tusk saying no customs union, no frictionless borders. Complete common sense; but the UK Gov just can't grasp this. They don’t want to grasp it because they don’t want to admit it, but it is so obvious that I am astounded that they have actually managed to avoid this for this long. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 Arlene Foster is driving this. If May had not lost her majority she would have sold NI out in a heartbeat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane's child Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 29 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: Donald Tusk saying no customs union, no frictionless borders. Complete common sense; but the UK Gov just can't grasp this. The EU playing hardball and quashing any UK hopes of getting "a good deal" is delicious to watch. They're two or three steps ahead of us at all times. No way can Brexit be a success, it'll undermine the EU and will potentially mean more countries will want to leave. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 It's all going swimmingly. Fanfare for "Red line climbdown on EU citizens rights" yesterday from May, rejected out of hand because it discriminates between different EU citizens, before lunch the next day. 50/50 it'll be a walk out / no deal / huff speech tomorrow from the desiccated tory human shield. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Increasingly looking like either a hard Brexit clusterfuck or an EU reform of freedom of movement giving an excuse for us to stay in. There doesn't seem like any practical middle way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, zidane's child said: The EU playing hardball and quashing any UK hopes of getting "a good deal" is delicious to watch. They're two or three steps ahead of us at all times. No way can Brexit be a success, it'll undermine the EU and will potentially mean more countries will want to leave. I don't think we'll ever truly grasp just how little anyone across the entire political spectrum (left or right, Remain or Leave) had prepared for a Leave vote. 36 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Increasingly looking like either a hard Brexit clusterfuck or an EU reform of freedom of movement giving an excuse for us to stay in. There doesn't seem like any practical middle way. I wouldn't be surprised if this happens. The EU, despite Bishop Briggs (RIP) insisting that they're constrained by their own directives can and will act expediently where it matters. Case in point, at least so far, is Portugal who've missed EU budgetary targets and avoided any confrontation with the Troika thanks in part to Britain voting to leave and the wider fear of an Iberian backlash against the EU. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, NotThePars said: I don't think we'll ever truly grasp just how little anyone across the entire political spectrum (left or right, Remain or Leave) had prepared for a Leave vote. I wouldn't be surprised if this happens. The EU, despite Bishop Briggs (RIP) insisting that they're constrained by their own directives can and will act expediently where it matters. Case in point, at least so far, is Portugal who've missed EU budgetary targets and avoided any confrontation with the Troika thanks in part to Britain voting to leave and the wider fear of an Iberian backlash against the EU. They're already talking about changing the rules to stop emigrants from poorer countries undercutting labour markets in wealthier countries. https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-eu-workers/most-eu-states-push-reform-of-labour-rules-sought-by-frances-macron-idUKKBN1CS1HL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, zidane's child said: The EU playing hardball and quashing any UK hopes of getting "a good deal" is delicious to watch. They're two or three steps ahead of us at all times. No way can Brexit be a success, it'll undermine the EU and will potentially mean more countries will want to leave. There is more unity and common purpose amongst the other 27 EU countries than there is amongst a handful of Tory cabinet ministers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, welshbairn said: They're already talking about changing the rules to stop emigrants from poorer countries undercutting labour markets in wealthier countries. https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-eu-workers/most-eu-states-push-reform-of-labour-rules-sought-by-frances-macron-idUKKBN1CS1HL Interested to see how this plays out in the grand narrative of Macron inevitably pissing off enough of France to usher in Le Pen at the next presidential elections. ETA: also Macron touring the former Soviet bloc is going to be class if his tour of Africa is anything to go by. Edited March 1, 2018 by NotThePars 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 There is more unity and common purpose amongst the other 27 EU countries than there is amongst a handful of Tory cabinet ministers. EU backing ROI to the hilt; good to see it looking after its own. UK claiming that they are being bullied by EU; yet EU have been more proactive and reasonable in their asks. Remember it was the UK who chose to leave. ROI are the big boys now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 David Davis getting the party started. https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/david-davis-threatens-withdraw-39-091624640.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 David Davis getting the party started.https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/david-davis-threatens-withdraw-39-091624640.html That pays all the pensions in germany that divorce bill according to a facebook meme 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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