Blootoon87 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 We must protect our fish so we can kill them seems a strange one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 hours ago, bendan said: We currently have zero tariffs on agricultural imports from the EU27. How can we simultaneously say that it would be enormously damaging to impose tariffs on this free trade, and yet at the same time say that zero tariffs are enormously damaging? I think zero tarrifs will be enormously damaging for some producers. Zero tarrifs on cane sugar will almost certainly finish sugar beet producers. For meat products it's a lot less clear. Obviously overseas competitors will become cheaper but fodder fed production should get cheaper if we can import feed at a lower cost. If nothing else comes of this fiasco it will be an excellent experiment for trade theorists. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 38 minutes ago, Detournement said: Loads in the media about fishing. Not so much about whether we should automatically co-opt future EU legislation into UK law.... There is no demand from the EU that we adopt future EU legislation, they're only pointing out that divergence could change the terms of trade, which is just stating the obvious and is nothing new. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitburn Vale Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) The SNP just hours away now from job done......,no deal Brexit,end of the UK Thanks Boris,you absolute gift of a man!!! Edited December 12, 2020 by Whitburn Vale 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunfermline Don Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 If the Royal Navy are unable to stop wee dinghies coming over the channel what hope do they have against fishing boats.Does the navy even have the capability or ships to do this any more.How long till we see Farage with a ‘Dunkirk’ style fleet of little boats ready to go out and defend our waters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 3 hours ago, bendan said: We currently have zero tariffs on agricultural imports from the EU27. How can we simultaneously say that it would be enormously damaging to impose tariffs on this free trade, and yet at the same time say that zero tariffs are enormously damaging? Third country (non-EU) imports are however subject to pretty high tariffs. If there is no deal and we lower the tariffs to zero due to the amount of food we import, every country in the world will be able to benefit from this zero tariff. The agricultural sector in Britain would be essentially wiped out as a result. On the other hand, we import a lot of food from the EU which at the moment carries no tariff. Under a no deal these will become more expensive, which is certainly damaging to the wallets of the population. Then there's the effect on British exporters, whose products simultaneously become more expensive to source too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 10 hours ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Just casually planning to sink the French fishing fleet on New Year's Day like a very normal country. I've said it before and will say it again. This guy went round doors and addressed public meetings and people decided to vote for him. What judgement has been exercised, who actually thought he was alright? It is looking out him and his pals what they are yet some people are blind to it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 23 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: I've said it before and will say it again. This guy went round doors and addressed public meetings and people decided to vote for him. What judgement has been exercised, who actually thought he was alright? It is looking out him and his pals what they are yet some people are blind to it. "Corbyn is a marxist and will spend all YOUR money and bankrupt the country" That's pretty much how it worked, no? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Gammon w**k bank front page on the Express. I wish they could at least get it factually correct. Fish don't belong to anyone, they are free to swim wherever the whim takes them. A cod might be in UK waters today then swim a few miles into French (for example) waters a few hours later. Does Mr Cod then suddenly become Monsieur Cod - no because it's a fucking fish ! All anyone is guarding would be UK waters, there is no such thing as UK fish. GUARD ARE FISH!!!!!**That we send to the continent, with the exception of enough bland bottom feeder to keep are great nation in fish fingers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 If the Royal Navy are unable to stop wee dinghies coming over the channel what hope do they have against fishing boats.Does the navy even have the capability or ships to do this any more.How long till we see Farage with a ‘Dunkirk’ style fleet of little boats ready to go out and defend our waters. Fair point actually. What will happen to the gammon brain when told that the ROOL BRITTAINIA Navy has been stripped back to point they have to choose between protecting the fish or ensuring refugess dont make it to their 30k per year and 5 bedroom house. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: 53 minutes ago, Dunfermline Don said: If the Royal Navy are unable to stop wee dinghies coming over the channel what hope do they have against fishing boats. Does the navy even have the capability or ships to do this any more. How long till we see Farage with a ‘Dunkirk’ style fleet of little boats ready to go out and defend our waters. Fair point actually. What will happen to the gammon brain when told that the ROOL BRITTAINIA Navy has been stripped back to point they have to choose between protecting the fish or ensuring refugess dont make it to their 30k per year and 5 bedroom house. Give the navy refugees wages! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 4 hours ago, bendan said: We currently have zero tariffs on agricultural imports from the EU27. How can we simultaneously say that it would be enormously damaging to impose tariffs on this free trade, and yet at the same time say that zero tariffs are enormously damaging? EU countries have to keep to much the same standards, and thus costs, as we do. Third countries don't, so the only thing stopping them flooding our market with cheap food that we can't compete with on price is tariffs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, bendan said: We currently have zero tariffs on agricultural imports from the EU27. How can we simultaneously say that it would be enormously damaging to impose tariffs on this free trade, and yet at the same time say that zero tariffs are enormously damaging? Because we would have zero tariffs on agricultural imports with everybody. Any nation could dump their excess on our markets, putting our farmers out of business. Comical indeed. Edited December 12, 2020 by Baxter Parp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Just bought an Audi to own the brexiteers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Just bought an Audi to own the brexiteers. Vorsprung durch get it right up ye little Englander cùnts. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: Because we would have zero tariffs on agricultural imports with everybody. Yes, I know, but why is it good when it's from a European country but bad when it's from somewhere else. Non-tariff barriers (like phyto-sanitary standards and regulations on hormones etc) would still apply. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I’m looking forward to French fisherpersons blockading the ports and the French authorities doing fùck all about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Vorsprung durch get it right up ye little Englander cùnts. Well i mean im not saying England is full of cnuts but the ones who voted brexit and tory are. Didnt you vote for brexit? If so my car purchase just got it up you too! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Well i mean im not saying England is full of cnuts but the ones who voted brexit and tory are. Didnt you vote for brexit? If so my car purchase just got it up you too! Low blow and addressed so often since then. BTW I ride a Swedish model drive a Volvo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, bendan said: Yes, I know, but why is it good when it's from a European country but bad when it's from somewhere else. Non-tariff barriers (like phyto-sanitary standards and regulations on hormones etc) would still apply. "Everywhere" includes Canada, China, the US or even the EU, it's not some racist trope, it's protecting our market from unfair market dumping. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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