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53 minutes ago, DiegoDiego said:
1 hour ago, Granny Danger said:
Off topic, but we should start referring to him as “the sex offender Prince Andrew” on every occasion.  I’d like to see some  (many) comedians doing that when referring to him.

Good idea failed politician Granny Danger.

Maybe you can elaborate?

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2 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

Off topic, but we should start referring to him as “the sex offender Prince Andrew” on every occasion.  I’d like to see some  (many) comedians doing that when referring to him.

If the BBC can use the term "The so-called Islamic State", then surely the more moderate:

"The alleged sex offender, Prince Andrew......"

....isn't too much of a jump (f-narr).

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1 minute ago, speckled tangerine said:

If the BBC can use the term "The so-called Islamic State", then surely the more moderate:

"The alleged sex offender, Prince Andrew......"

....isn't too much of a jump (f-narr).

“Alleged” is a cop out.  What can he do if people refer to him as a sex offender?  Seriously?  There is no way he can take any sort of legal action without creating insurmountable problems for himself.  

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2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

“Alleged” is a cop out.  What can he do if people refer to him as a sex offender?  Seriously?  There is no way he can take any sort of legal action without creating insurmountable problems for himself.  

I agree.

I don't have the pockets to give it a go though.

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As many as 80,000 EU nationals could lose their right to live in the UK due to errors in EU Settlement Scheme applications, according to data by City law firm Bates Wells, shared with City A.M. this afternoon.

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A lot of freight used to be taken by rail. However nationalised rail was quite unionised whereas the deregulated private road haulage industry was not. So there was a move away from rail to road in the 1980s under the Thatcher Government.

40 years later and a not particularly well paid non unionised industry is short of drivers as their cheap foreign labour have fucked off after Brexit. And next time you're stuck behind a convoy of lorries in your car belching out not very environmentally friendly fumes think whether those goods in the trailer wouldn't have been easier transported by rail.

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On 24/08/2021 at 17:15, Granny Danger said:

“Alleged” is a cop out.  What can he do if people refer to him as a sex offender?  Seriously?  There is no way he can take any sort of legal action without creating insurmountable problems for himself.  

Well obviously he is not going to sweat about it.

Oh dear.

 

 

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2 hours ago, tamthebam said:

A lot of freight used to be taken by rail. However nationalised rail was quite unionised whereas the deregulated private road haulage industry was not. So there was a move away from rail to road in the 1980s under the Thatcher Government.

40 years later and a not particularly well paid non unionised industry is short of drivers as their cheap foreign labour have fucked off after Brexit. And next time you're stuck behind a convoy of lorries in your car belching out not very environmentally friendly fumes think whether those goods in the trailer wouldn't have been easier transported by rail.

While I was out running the other day (aye, I know, take a second to digest that), there was some kind of debate on BBC Scotland about the shortage of truck drivers. What to do, what to do.

I listened through the whole thing waiting for the phrase "rail infrastructure" to be mentioned, but I needn't have bothered.

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53 minutes ago, BFTD said:

While I was out running the other day (aye, I know, take a second to digest that), there was some kind of debate on BBC Scotland about the shortage of truck drivers. What to do, what to do.

I listened through the whole thing waiting for the phrase "rail infrastructure" to be mentioned, but I needn't have bothered.

To be fair you do need both rail and road haulage. A good coordinated system would use rail for the long distance strategic movements to regional depots, and road for the local distribution from the depots. It’s just a pity we don’t have a permanent reliable rail link to the continent that could be used to bring in imports on large goods train, rather than use all these relatively small lorries on ferries and shuttle trains.

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6 minutes ago, Soapy FFC said:

 It’s just a pity we don’t have a permanent reliable rail link to the continent that could be used to bring in imports on large goods train, rather than use all these relatively small lorries on ferries and shuttle trains.

Well, we do, it's the channel tunnel.

https://www.getlinkgroup.com/en/our-group/eurotunnel/activity-and-performance/

Up to thirty freight trains a day, apparently.

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11 hours ago, Baxter Parp said:

Well, we do, it's the channel tunnel.

https://www.getlinkgroup.com/en/our-group/eurotunnel/activity-and-performance/

Up to thirty freight trains a day, apparently.

Even this ogre liked it.

https://www.bikebiz.com/biggest-fan-of-the-single-market-margaret-thatcher/

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"Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers—visible or invisible—giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the world’s wealthiest and most prosperous people.

"Bigger than Japan. Bigger than the United States. On your doorstep. And with the Channel Tunnel to give you direct access to it.

"It’s not a dream. It’s not a vision. It’s not some bureaucrat’s plan. It’s for real.

 

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2 hours ago, Baxter Parp said:

Well, we do, it's the channel tunnel.

https://www.getlinkgroup.com/en/our-group/eurotunnel/activity-and-performance/

Up to thirty freight trains a day, apparently.

I realise the channel tunnel carries freight, but looking at that report it states since it opened:

More than 430 million tonnes of goods have been carried through the Tunnel mainly on board the Eurotunnel Truck Shuttles but also on the freight trains of the Railway Operators.

So my point was more about not using the tunnel as an underground ferry for the trucks, but rather as a method of actually using proper freight trains to bring goods into the country, which would then fit into a properly planned train and truck infrastructure. Maybe there already is something like that, but it seems to me we mostly depend on trucks for everything, short, long, and international distance.

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2 minutes ago, Soapy FFC said:

Maybe there already is something like that, but it seems to me we mostly depend on trucks for everything, short, long, and international distance.

There is and they're set up for up to thirty trains a day.  It doesn't get used to anything like capacity.  No incentives, I guess. 

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4 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said:

There is and they're set up for up to thirty trains a day.  It doesn't get used to anything like capacity.  No incentives, I guess. 

Surely there must be an incentive now, in that we wouldn't need drivers to drive in both Europe and the UK, which is one of the issues I thought there was (foreign drivers getting caught up in queues so not wanting to come to the UK etc)

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5 minutes ago, Soapy FFC said:

Surely there must be an incentive now, in that we wouldn't need drivers to drive in both Europe and the UK, which is one of the issues I thought there was (foreign drivers getting caught up in queues so not wanting to come to the UK etc)

Need to find the rolling stock first. Or build it.

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