CaspianChris Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 The reaction to bitter Brexiteers if the Court of Session steps on again will be interesting. The UK will end up going up in flames soon at this rate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 34 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: You’re a fucking simpleton. Long term gain? We’ll all be fucking poorer, the royal college of radiologists has said that they will be forced to ration cancer scans and treatments, just think about that, people will actually die and apparently thats long term gain? What if one of the people who dies because of rationing is the baby who’d go on to cure it? Wheres the long term gain in that? You absolute mindless nutter. Everything beyond that first sentence is superfluous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, NotThePars said: It's remarkable people are still banging on about 'ineffective opposition' when the past 4 years has saw three prime ministers, record levels of Commons defeats and the government losing its personal and working majorities. ETA: I'm saying remarkable but it's basically only being said by folk who sincerely wish Blair was still in power. It is only a record number of defeats because Labour lost the election in 2017 and therefore did not replace them. If anyone replaces the Tories at the next election then the count goes back to zero. However Labour are struggling to convince anyone they would be an improvement on this pathetic government. Maybe unfair but true. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 You’re a fucking simpleton. Long term gain? We’ll all be fucking poorer, the royal college of radiologists has said that they will be forced to ration cancer scans and treatments, just think about that, people will actually die and apparently thats long term gain? What if one of the people who dies because of rationing is the baby who’d go on to cure it? Wheres the long term gain in that? You absolute mindless nutter. Best cancel any future indy ref as well just in case we are poorer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Voting now on a 3-day recess Monday to Wednesday next week to allow the Tory conference to go ahead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Just now, Donathan said: Voting now on a 3-day recess Monday to Wednesday next week to allow the Tory conference to go ahead And the govt have just lost it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Defeated, Boris now 0-7 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearthammer Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 30 minutes ago, Donathan said: Defeated, Boris now 0-7 Won't affect the belligerent de pfeffellllll in the slightest. He and his pet bulldog Cummings will simply charge ahead with his trump-esque decimation of democracy and crank up the fascist rhetoric without the slightest hint of either apologising for or withdrawing any hideous remarks made yesterday. He believes he's on a positive charge to a no-deal brexit and is pandering and playing to his right wing little englanders. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Leaving the EU = Long term gainRemainiacs always assume the worst, it's quite possible to better ourselves as well.I could believe that leaving the EU in an methodical and organised approach would be beneficial but the Tory Hard Brexit now shtick is crazy.Get that in the bin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I could believe that leaving the EU in an methodical and organised approach would be beneficial but the Tory Hard Brexit now shtick is crazy.Get that in the bin.I still think we will leave with a deal. A reworded May's deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 From Grauniad....... "Yesterday Labour whips offered the government a non-aggression pact, saying that as long as the Commons sat on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, they would be happy to debate non-contentious business (meaning there would be not need for a three-line whip, and most MPs would be able to go to Manchester). The conference is said to be worth £30m to the Manchester economy, and Labour did not want to take the blame for the city losing out. The government whips did not take up the offer, pushed for a recess instead, and lost the vote. The business tabled for Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday (see 2.13pm) is non-contentious and in normal circumstances there would be no need for a three-line whip. But does the non-aggression offer still hold? Probably not. That offer was made before Boris Johnson spent three hours in the Commons disrespecting the memory of Jo Cox and using language seen as inciting violence against MPs. As my colleague Rowena Mason reports, opposition parties are meeting now to discuss what they will do next week. There is no reason to think they won’t want to do all they can disrupt next week for the government.." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 3 hours ago, The OP said: I will be pleased when I don't need to join the EU Army and get involved in their many, many wars. Their field kitchens are top-notch, though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, UsedToGoToCentralPark said: 16 minutes ago, Cerberus said: I could believe that leaving the EU in an methodical and organised approach would be beneficial but the Tory Hard Brexit now shtick is crazy. Get that in the bin. I still think we will leave with a deal. A reworded May's deal. Johnson's disgusting and arrogant right wing rhetoric is painting himself into a corner. He doesn't command a majority, and he's making it highly unlikely that he'll get the votes he needs to get any kind of deal through parliament. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Johnson's disgusting and arrogant right wing rhetoric is painting himself into a corner. He doesn't command a majority, and he's making it highly unlikely that he'll get the votes he needs to get any kind of deal through parliament.That would mean no deal though if the EU tell us to get stuffed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, UsedToGoToCentralPark said: 4 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: Johnson's disgusting and arrogant right wing rhetoric is painting himself into a corner. He doesn't command a majority, and he's making it highly unlikely that he'll get the votes he needs to get any kind of deal through parliament. That would mean no deal though if the EU tell us to get stuffed. Or better still, No Brexit. Edited September 26, 2019 by ICTJohnboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 26 minutes ago, UsedToGoToCentralPark said: I still think we will leave with a deal. A reworded May's deal. These guys are seldom wrong. Brexit 2nd EU referendumView all oddsView all odds No (Before 2020)1/33 Yes (Before 2020)12/1 Brexit DateView all oddsView all odds July 2019 - December 201915/8 January 2020 - June 202011/4 Not before 202211/4 July 2020 - December 202011/1 No Deal Brexit?View all oddsView all odds No (Withdrawal Agreement is ratified, Article 50 extended beyond 2019 or Article 50 revoked)1/5 Yes (UK leave the EU in 2019 without Withdrawal Agreement in place)4/1 Article 50 to be RevokedView all oddsView all odds No4/11 Yes2/1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, cyderspaceman said: These guys are seldom wrong. Brexit 2nd EU referendumView all oddsView all odds No (Before 2020)1/33 Yes (Before 2020)12/1 Brexit DateView all oddsView all odds July 2019 - December 201915/8 January 2020 - June 202011/4 Not before 202211/4 July 2020 - December 202011/1 No Deal Brexit?View all oddsView all odds No (Withdrawal Agreement is ratified, Article 50 extended beyond 2019 or Article 50 revoked)1/5 Yes (UK leave the EU in 2019 without Withdrawal Agreement in place)4/1 Article 50 to be RevokedView all oddsView all odds No4/11 Yes2/1 Off the top of my head Corbyn was 33/1 in 2015 to be leader, the Tories were 11/2 to win the election in 2015 with a clear majority, Remain was about 1/4 and Donald Trump was 5/2 to be president. They're not great. I can only confirm the Tories as I won money on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 (edited) Some far right nutter has attacked Jess Phillips constituency office in B/Ham. How many Brexit extremists are there out there? Eta... Breaking news. https://news.sky.com/story/jess-phillips-man-held-after-smacking-windows-of-mps-office-and-shouting-fascist-11820162 Edited September 26, 2019 by ICTJohnboy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearthammer Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 34 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Some far right nutter has attacked Jess Phillips constituency office in B/Ham. How many Brexit extremists are there out there? Eta... Breaking news. https://news.sky.com/story/jess-phillips-man-held-after-smacking-windows-of-mps-office-and-shouting-fascist-11820162 de pfeffelllll's cunning plan is starting to bear fruit, i see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 51 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Some far right nutter has attacked Jess Phillips constituency office in B/Ham. How many Brexit extremists are there out there? Eta... Breaking news. https://news.sky.com/story/jess-phillips-man-held-after-smacking-windows-of-mps-office-and-shouting-fascist-11820162 Circa 17.4M 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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