welshbairn Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 20 minutes ago, Detournement said: I don't think wages will rise immediately but I'm sure it's more likely they that they might if private care companies can't recruit in the Phillipines. Or more likely care to the elderly will be reduced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 42 minutes ago, Detournement said: I don't think wages will rise immediately but I'm sure it's more likely they that they might if private care companies can't recruit in the Phillipines. 22 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Or more likely care to the elderly will be reduced. Staff to patient ratios are regulated. So taking in less patients doesn't help viability. The care homes companies are geared up to the eyeballs with debt. If there's a sudden and sustained increase in costs, expect failures. The residents can't be chucked onto the streets so local authorities and the NHS will end up holding the baby. Or central government will need to find a way to subsidise the private operators. Or just nationalise the industry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Pet Jeden said: Staff to patient ratios are regulated. So taking in less patients doesn't help viability. The care homes companies are geared up to the eyeballs with debt. If there's a sudden and sustained increase in costs, expect failures. The residents can't be chucked onto the streets so local authorities and the NHS will end up holding the baby. Or central government will need to find a way to subsidise the private operators. Or just nationalise the industry. It's not just the homes, it's home visits to people trying to manage on their own but just need checking up on and helped a bit with washing etc. If that falls apart the whole system is fucked. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Yet another bang-on-the money article from Business Editor Iain McConnell in todays Herald. https://www.heraldscotland.com/business_hq/18244216.ian-mcconnell-boris-induced-surge-evokes-electric-shock-experiment/ And Patel has now signalled the UK Governement line towards any criticism or dissent - 'This Is What People Voted For' is about to become the new 'Brexit Means Brexit'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Pet Jeden said: Or just nationalise the industry. You got there in the end. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Polarbear said: I think they would have had to have left Uganda in the 70's to be classified as refugees. They saw it coming... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Just heard disgraced red Tory Tom Harris on LBC championing Johnson’s immigration announcement because “regardless of your view on Brexit, it’s not right that rules are drawn up in Brussels and we’re stuck with them no matter who we vote for”. Harris instead supports rules being drawn up in Westminster and the people of Scotland being stuck with them regardless of who we vote for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 4 hours ago, MixuFixit said: Fish is rapidly becoming this subs new £12.6bn. Nearly pissed myself laughing at this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbitterandgrumpy Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 15 hours ago, welshbairn said: I'm looking forward to serve yourself pubs and microwave your own restaurants so I won't have to talk to foreigners. Or even talk to people. I might even start to go out more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbitterandgrumpy Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 hours ago, MixuFixit said: https://reut.rs/3bWAt5d Time to de-google your life. Yeah, serious stuff, but, are most people who use the internet really caring about this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 9 hours ago, Antlion said: Just heard disgraced red Tory Tom Harris on LBC championing Johnson’s immigration announcement because “regardless of your view on Brexit, it’s not right that rules are drawn up in Brussels and we’re stuck with them no matter who we vote for”. Harris instead supports rules being drawn up in Westminster and the people of Scotland being stuck with them regardless of who we vote for. Harris is the khunt's khunt. Astonishing that this guy was once a Scottish Labour MP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Just heard disgraced red Tory Tom Harris on LBC championing Johnson’s immigration announcement because “regardless of your view on Brexit, it’s not right that rules are drawn up in Brussels and we’re stuck with them no matter who we vote for”.. I know Tom Harris is an idiot but this line is being repeated all the time. Non-EU immigration is higher now than it was in 2010, when the Tories came to power. They’ve literally had a decade where they could’ve made that number zero, if they really wanted to. But they haven’t. Does Britain have too few jobs to go around? ‘Record unemployment’, I heard. So why have they done nothing about it, except let the figures go higher? I don’t see much pushing back against that, and as ever the great ‘British’ public wouldn’t give a f**k even if it was said to them every five minutes. Just less foreigners, innit, and make the 8 million scroungers (including the disabled, retirees, students, carers) work the farms. I actually to some degree think there has been some hysteria around Brexit and the ‘doomsday’ predictions, but this is the first clear disaster waiting to happen. The economy will have to shrink to match the new jobs market, there simply won’t be enough people to fill the jobs. Easy enough to inflate the ‘average wage’ when you do away with thousands of care homes, restaurants, cafes, high street stores and hotels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 We are simultaneously told that we need immigration to fill jobs but also that automation and AI are going to put millions of people out of work. They both can't be true. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Detournement said: We are simultaneously told that we need immigration to fill jobs but also that automation and AI are going to put millions of people out of work. They both can't be true. If you believe that overnight AI can take over millions of jobs then, yes, they both can't be true. But in the real world it'll take years before AI is phased in on that scale, in the meantime we need people to do the jobs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, The Moonster said: If you believe that overnight AI can take over millions of jobs then, yes, they both can't be true. But in the real world it'll take years before AI is phased in on that scale, in the meantime we need people to do the jobs. And sadly we have millions of people in the UK who are unemployed or under employed. We need a labour market that rewards workers for taking on difficult and essential jobs rather than being completely titled to owners who profit from paying poverty wages. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Everyones favourite fisherman and ex tory candidate was on radio 4 this morning telling the presenter that Bojo and co's mmigration policy would be a disaster for Scotland [emoji23][emoji23] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodhull Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Everyones favourite fisherman and ex tory candidate was on radio 4 this morning telling the presenter that Bojo and co's mmigration policy would be a disaster for Scotland Came here to post the same. Who could have predicted that the Brexiteer fisherman would be fucked by Brexit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 https://reut.rs/3bWAt5dTime to de-google your life.Did this myself a while back. Ditched 'big tech' in general as a whole. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Get yer Langoustine here, 3 fur a quid, buy a box and get a free brexit flag and lighter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 hours ago, The Moonster said: If you believe that overnight AI can take over millions of jobs then, yes, they both can't be true. But in the real world it'll take years before AI is phased in on that scale, in the meantime we need people to do the jobs. We've had artificial intelligence for years - you may know it as the Iraq Dossier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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