Guest Bob Mahelp Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, The Master said: The colour of a passport really shouldn’t be of concern to anyone. However, now that the headbangers have made it the “ultimate symbol of Brexit”, and by extension a symbol of “Little England”, I’d feel almost embarrassed to show it. Thankfully my passport is due to be expire in January 2020 which means I can renew it before October 2019, when the colour change comes in. It means I can keep my distance from the imperialistic nonsense for a decade at least. Mine doesn't expire until 2021 but I'll be renewing it next year to make sure I get a normal coloured passport, and not a blue one which would mark me out as a bigoted aging racist and khqunt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, welshbairn said: More money, better accommodation and an effort to attract students might work according to this. And staying in the EU of course. https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/people/brexit-and-the-workforce/why-are-so-few-brits-prepared-to-pick-fruit/554452.article?regmast=1&rtn=https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/people/brexit-and-the-workforce/why-are-so-few-brits-prepared-to-pick-fruit/554452.article&redirCanon=1# Quote “It means integrating with 85% Eastern Europeans, and people feel uncomfortable with it.” I'd like to know what an 85% Eastern European is. Somebody from Poland with a German Great Gran? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 David Davis once again shrugging off the Irish border issue. It will be interesting to observe the absolute chaos that will emerge when a final solution emerges whether it be capitulation by the U.K. government or a hard border. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Looking forward to peace in Ireland getting thrown under the bus to save Brexit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Irish border and they still havent mentioned Gibraltar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 16 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Irish border and they still havent mentioned Gibraltar As long as they don't mention the war... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 On 3/22/2018 at 15:37, Cerberus said: No mention of the 1000s of tons that were thrown away as "discard" based on EU regulations? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 12 hours ago, Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo said: I'd like to know what an 85% Eastern European is. Somebody from Poland with a German Great Gran? It about getting on a bus to go out to the fields and 85% of the people are talking a language you don't understand and you are convinced they are all talking about you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I'm starting to get the feeling the Tory government will keep N.Ireland in alignment with the Republic resulting in no hard border. Even if the DUP bring down the UK government because of that, the possible replacement is Corbyn who will do exactly the same. Corbyn also seems to have flat-lined, and you get the feeling the Tories would feel confident going into a UK general election. Corbyn should be miles ahead in the polls but if anything he's going slightly backwards. Rumbles within the Labour party may sense this and their voices of criticism seem to be getting louder. I'm not so sure Labour would emerge as the largest party after an election. How all this plays out constitutionally in the long run is anyone's guess. N.Ireland getting a special deal won't go down well in Scotland and to a lesser extent Wales. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 16 minutes ago, Colkitto said: I'm starting to get the feeling the Tory government will keep N.Ireland in alignment with the Republic resulting in no hard border. Even if the DUP bring down the UK government because of that, the possible replacement is Corbyn who will do exactly the same. Corbyn also seems to have flat-lined, and you get the feeling the Tories would feel confident going into a UK general election. Corbyn should be miles ahead in the polls but if anything he's going slightly backwards. Rumbles within the Labour party may sense this and their voices of criticism seem to be getting louder. I'm not so sure Labour would emerge as the largest party after an election. How all this plays out constitutionally in the long run is anyone's guess. N.Ireland getting a special deal won't go down well in Scotland and to a lesser extent Wales. Not amongst the Scottish government, but you can bet your bottom dollar that any legitimate complaint will be dismissed as “grievance” (any concerns Scots have about unfair treatment being “grievance”, whilst any concerns good Britons have about the EU being “legitimate democratic concerns”) by the Little Britons. The UK government doesn’t care about Scotland or Wales. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 22 minutes ago, Antlion said: Not amongst the Scottish government, but you can bet your bottom dollar that any legitimate complaint will be dismissed as “grievance” (any concerns Scots have about unfair treatment being “grievance”, whilst any concerns good Britons have about the EU being “legitimate democratic concerns”) by the Little Britons. The UK government doesn’t care about Scotland or Wales. Events, dear boy, events.. Grievance of a special deal for N.Ireland and a possible request for Section 30 order for indyref2 being denied must be taken full advantage of - in fact not to do so would be a dereliction of duty. This can be carried on to the Holyrood elections and an unambiguous mandate for indyref2. If they then deny that it's a whole new ball game! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Colkitto said: Events, dear boy, events.. Grievance of a special deal for N.Ireland and a possible request for Section 30 order for indyref2 being denied must be taken full advantage of - in fact not to do so would be a dereliction of duty. This can be carried on to the Holyrood elections and an unambiguous mandate for indyref2. If they then deny that it's a whole new ball game! Would enough Scottish voters care a jot about this ? My guess is that around 75% of the Scottish electorate are not in the least bit concerned about the minutae of constitutional wrangling and will quite happily accept any Brexit outcome. Another guess is that Westminster knows this full well, and if the SNP don't they damn well should, before they consider an unwinnable 2nd referendum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: Would enough Scottish voters care a jot about this ? My guess is that around 75% of the Scottish electorate are not in the least bit concerned about the minutae of constitutional wrangling and will quite happily accept any Brexit outcome. Another guess is that Westminster knows this full well, and if the SNP don't they damn well should, before they consider an unwinnable 2nd referendum. Are you saying 45% of the electorate who voted Yes and still support independence won't be the least bit concerned if Westminster said no? And the 62% who voted remain will just shrug their shoulders and accept N.Ireland special deal? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 Are you saying 45% of the electorate who voted Yes and still support independence won't be the least bit concerned if Westminster said no? And the 62% who voted remain will just shrug their shoulders and accept N.Ireland special deal? It's not the 45% it's the remainder that won't care tbh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 16 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: 19 minutes ago, Colkitto said: Are you saying 45% of the electorate who voted Yes and still support independence won't be the least bit concerned if Westminster said no? And the 62% who voted remain will just shrug their shoulders and accept N.Ireland special deal? It's not the 45% it's the remainder that won't care tbh Yes, but that doesn't equate to 75% of the electorate not caring 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 38 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: 41 minutes ago, Colkitto said: Are you saying 45% of the electorate who voted Yes and still support independence won't be the least bit concerned if Westminster said no? And the 62% who voted remain will just shrug their shoulders and accept N.Ireland special deal? It's not the 45% it's the remainder that won't care tbh That remainder includes EU (non-UK) Nationals too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 That remainder includes EU (non-UK) Nationals too. Valid point and maybe some fishermen now as well 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 8 hours ago, strichener said: No mention of the 1000s of tons that were thrown away as "discard" based on EU regulations? No one wants rancid fish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Just now, Cerberus said: No one wants rancid fish. Which explains why Farage continually failed to get elected to the UK Parliament. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 10 hours ago, strichener said: No mention of the 1000s of tons that were thrown away as "discard" based on EU regulations? If you agree with quotas for certain fish to preserve stocks, how else do you enforce them? Sorry Gov, accidentally caught 10 tons of Pilchard, sorry, won't happen again, what's the price like by the way? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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