Suspect Device Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I see that May has promised £350m a week to the NHS (in England) and is trying to pass it off as a Brexit dividend despite saying taxes will have to rise to pay for it and the bank of England telling us that Brexit uncertainty is costing the economy £400m a week. Although the Express must use the Seville calculator because they are reporting £600m a week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane's child Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Suspect Device said: I see that May has promised £350m a week to the NHS (in England) and is trying to pass it off as a Brexit dividend despite saying taxes will have to rise to pay for it and the bank of England telling us that Brexit uncertainty is costing the economy £400m a week. Although the Express must use the Seville calculator because they are reporting £600m a week. This is just a PR stunt - I'm certain that the NHS won't see money of this sort. The "Brexit Dividend" as they call it, is based on us no longer sending large amounts of money to the EU when leave, but if we're still looking at a customs or single market deal then we'll still have to pay in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 23 hours ago, ICTJohnboy said: If you go back several pages you might find some interesting comments on the subject of Brexit.... Don't doubt there is the occasional bout of rationality, but if I were to post about how the events of the last week have led me to change my mind on a soft Brexit being the likely outcome due to a perfect storm of circumstances that has led to several normally reasonably pragmatic political parties being led by people that are convinced they need a hard Brexit to carry out a radical policy agenda in future, odds on the referendum obsessed cranks would find a way to turn it into another turgid unionist vs nationalist thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 Don't doubt there is the occasional bout of rationality, but if I were to post about how the events of the last week have led me to change my mind on a soft Brexit being the likely outcome due to a perfect storm of circumstances that has led to several normally reasonably pragmatic political parties being led by people that are convinced they need a hard Brexit to carry out a radical policy agenda in future, odds on the referendum obsessed cranks would find a way to turn it into another turgid unionist vs nationalist thing. ^word salad 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 22 hours ago, dirty dingus said: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2732234/Revealed-The-Full-horrifying-truth-Sir-Nicholas-Fairbairn-paedophile-Margaret-Thatcher-s-side.html Well, that was an interesting read! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 9 hours ago, Suspect Device said: I see that May has promised £350m a week to the NHS (in England) and is trying to pass it off as a Brexit dividend despite saying taxes will have to rise to pay for it and the bank of England telling us that Brexit uncertainty is costing the economy £400m a week. Although the Express must use the Seville calculator because they are reporting £600m a week. By the time it gets put in place £600 million will probably be worth £350 million in today's money... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 6 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: Don't doubt there is the occasional bout of rationality, but if I were to post about how the events of the last week have led me to change my mind on a soft Brexit being the likely outcome due to a perfect storm of circumstances that has led to several normally reasonably pragmatic political parties being led by people that are convinced they need a hard Brexit to carry out a radical policy agenda in future, odds on the referendum obsessed cranks would find a way to turn it into another turgid unionist vs nationalist thing. Give it a bash mate. What have you got to lose 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 hours ago, madwullie said: Give it a bash mate. What have you got to lose His fence is perfectly comfortable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Translation: Tax rises to help us cover the damaging cost of Brexit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Am I right in saying Scotland no longer has to increase taxes in line with Westminster policy, but would receive a ‘bonus’ based off the rUK tax rise if it is ploughed into healthcare as a result of the Barnett formula? Would be pretty funny. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 What does Ruth have to say about this hike possibly making Scotland the lowest taxed area of the UK? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khufu2 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 19 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: What does Ruth have to say about this hike possibly making Scotland the lowest taxed area of the UK? It already is. 70% of taxpayers pay less in Scotland than in rUK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Khufu2 said: It already is. 70% of taxpayers pay less in Scotland than in rUK. I know this. Ruth doesn't seem to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane's child Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 hour ago, RiG said: Translation: Tax rises to help us cover the damaging cost of Brexit. I'm sick of this Tory government - I thought the "Brexit dividend" was going to fund the extra cash given to the NHS. What a bunch of absolute sh**houses. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 13 hours ago, madwullie said: Give it a bash mate. What have you got to lose This is the core of it: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-5850479/PETER-OBORNE-Corbyn-man-saves-Brexit.html?ITO=1490 ...Of course, Corbyn's reasons for supporting Brexit are different indeed to those that drive Tories like Jacob Rees-Mogg and Boris Johnson, who seek to liberate us from the shackles of an unelected bureaucracy in Brussels. Corbyn opposes the European Union because he believes it is a capitalist club which will prevent him nationalising Britain's key companies and industries, and turning the country into a socialist state. That's why in 1993 he said the foundation of a European Central Bank under the Maastricht Treaty would 'undermine any social objective that any Labour Government in the United Kingdom — or any other Government — would wish to carry out'... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Robert Peston succinctly demolishing May's "Brexit bonus for the NHS" spiel. http://www.itv.com/news/2018-06-17/is-mays-money-for-nhs-really-a-brexit-dividend/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 35 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: This is the core of it: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-5850479/PETER-OBORNE-Corbyn-man-saves-Brexit.html?ITO=1490 ...Of course, Corbyn's reasons for supporting Brexit are different indeed to those that drive Tories like Jacob Rees-Mogg and Boris Johnson, who seek to liberate us from the shackles of an unelected bureaucracy in Brussels. Corbyn opposes the European Union because he believes it is a capitalist club which will prevent him nationalising Britain's key companies and industries, and turning the country into a socialist state. That's why in 1993 he said the foundation of a European Central Bank under the Maastricht Treaty would 'undermine any social objective that any Labour Government in the United Kingdom — or any other Government — would wish to carry out'... All very well, but Corbyns labour party have very little chance of forming a UK govt in the forseeable future if ever. Meanwhile millions of British workers are about to lose their rights under working time regulations, guaranteed sick pay and 28 days holiday. To be a "working class" Brexiteer is really not very bright. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Odd that Corbyn doesn’t see the UK as a capitalist club, given how and why it was formed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Are the working time regulations coming back to the devolved parliaments? I do hope the SNP find themselves in charge of this rather than the tories. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 2 hours ago, welshbairn said: Robert Peston succinctly demolishing May's "Brexit bonus for the NHS" spiel. http://www.itv.com/news/2018-06-17/is-mays-money-for-nhs-really-a-brexit-dividend/ If you know of anyone gullible enough to genuinely believe in a Brexit bonus let me know as I have a couple of imaginary bridges to unload. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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