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1 minute ago, Distant Doonhamer said:


Fair enough. I was speaking to a mate last week who seemed to have genuinely completely forgotten that the last general election had ever taken place. Wondered if this was another example of the same. Thanks for clarifying.

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If Trump had even secured $2000 checks for everyone then he potentially staggers over the line. If they’re eventually approved under Biden then that has to be seen as a masterstroke from the Dems and the Republicans that wanted rid.

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I find it hard to understand if Trump supporters really believe their own rhetoric regarding stolen elections and all the QAnon stuff.  Are the conspiracy theories just intellectual laziness or is there an element of genuine belief?

It’s like these Evangelical preachers; they either know what they’re doing is simply a scam, in which case it’s criminal, or they genuinely believe they are communicating with/speaking for a divine being, in which case they’re nuts.

 

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3 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

I find it hard to understand if Trump supporters really believe their own rhetoric regarding stolen elections and all the QAnon stuff.  Are the conspiracy theories just intellectual laziness or is there an element of genuine belief?

It’s like these Evangelical preachers; they either know what they’re doing is simply a scam, in which case it’s criminal, or they genuinely believe they are communicating with/speaking for a divine being, in which case they’re nuts.

 

I have two brother's-in-law who are fanatical Christians. They believe every single word in the bible.

I once told one of them that if Satan caused the great flood it would have been an act of evil. Did not go down well.

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I find it hard to understand if Trump supporters really believe their own rhetoric regarding stolen elections and all the QAnon stuff.  Are the conspiracy theories just intellectual laziness or is there an element of genuine belief?
It’s like these Evangelical preachers; they either know what they’re doing is simply a scam, in which case it’s criminal, or they genuinely believe they are communicating with/speaking for a divine being, in which case they’re nuts.
 


The initial Q proponents are pretty much confirmed as at it but plenty of supporters are full believers. Will Sommer was talking about his correspondence with supporters on Chapo and was mentioning that he’s spoken to supporters who have traumatic experiences like being diagnosed with cancer or having children with severe disabilities coinciding with America’s dreadful healthcare system and concluding thanks to conspiracies like Q that the problem is that the deep state is deliberately withholding their cures.
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The problem is that we're all prone to bias.  All these sub-cultures are inclusive and supportive (if you buy into them).  They are self perpetuating, people want to believe, what they want to believe and in a world of 8bn people if you go looking others with similar views, you can find it.  They confirm your bias and you go again

 

  

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Trump tweeted this when it was all kicking off, since deleted.

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“These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!”

Funny thing to say to the people he later called defilers who carried out a heinous attack and will be punished.

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Watching Trump deny a democratic result, has a striking resemblance to Scotland and denial of both the 2014 Independence Referendum and the 2016 EU Referendum results.

Thankfully the denial remains largely peaceful protest.

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3 minutes ago, Auld Heid said:

Watching Trump deny a democratic result, has a striking resemblance to Scotland and denial of both the 2014 Independence Referendum and the 2016 EU Referendum results.

Thankfully the denial remains largely peaceful protest.
 

America got the chance to reconsider 4 years later.

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3 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Trump tweeted this when it was all kicking off, since deleted.

Funny thing to say to the people he later called defilers who carried out a heinous attack and will be punished.

Trumps whole stance is absolutely bizarre. If you genuinely believe that an election has been stolen from you and that democracy is under attack by someone, and that all peaceful avenues have been exhausted, then armed resistance to that seems a fair enough response to me.

It’s almost as if he doesn’t believe a fucking word of it, or it’s an arse covering exercise.

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5 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said:

Trumps whole stance is absolutely bizarre. If you genuinely believe that an election has been stolen from you and that democracy is under attack by someone, and that all peaceful avenues have been exhausted, then armed resistance to that seems a fair enough response to me.

It’s almost as if he doesn’t believe a fucking word of it, or it’s an arse covering exercise.

Arse covering, his aides finally convinced him he was in serious shit, especially after the cop died. Compare what he did to what Nixon was forced to resign for and needed a pardon to avoid getting banged up.

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Finally a lie that's going to come back and bite him. When they have the inevitable enquiry with sworn testimony they'll find out he was watching it unfold with a huge bowl of popcorn, refusing to take calls, cheering them on and laughing at Pelosi and Pence having to hide.
I immediately deployed the National Guard and Federal law enforcement to secure the building and expel the intruders.
 
Yeah, that was the first thing I picked up on. They basically stated at the time that the DoD refused permission to call out the DC NG
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3 hours ago, Anonapersona said:

I have two brother's-in-law who are fanatical Christians. They believe every single word in the bible.

I once told one of them that if Satan caused the great flood it would have been an act of evil. Did not go down well.

Folk with religion are a proper menace.  I find it easier to stick with bigotry.

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