The Official Former President Trump thread

[DeeTillEhDeh]

BBC News - Trump committed fraud in NY, judge finds
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66931855

[Bully Wee Villa]

Surprised at this, to be honest. Doesn't seem like Donald.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

More detailed report in NY Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/26/nyregion/trump-james-fraud-trial.html

 

[Zen Archer (Raconteur)]

 

 

[TxRover]

All New York business licenses held by Trump and his companies have been revoked. The judge will appoint a receiver to supervise the dissolution of the entities, but surely the Treasonous Orange Fat F**ker has realigned stuff to protect against this. It is unclear if the entities could be reconstituted elsewhere, and the tax consequences of this dissolution could be “interesting”. This will be a business school case study for decades.

Edited September 26, 2023 by TxRover

[senorsoupe]

I wonder how he will either weasel his way out of this situation, try to spin it as some sort of conspiracy against him and/or blame everyone around him for this. 

In the long run, he will only keep digging himself a deeper hole, it's what narcissists do

[GHF-23]

On 26/09/2023 at 13:49, FreedomFarter said:

 

21 hours ago, Ziggy Sobotka said:

I just came on to post that.

Saw someone mention it's from a literary point of view very funny that he seems to have a thing for windmills and whales

[TxRover]

So, the following LLC’s have had their licenses cancelled in New York State, and are to be liquidated:

The Trump Organization LLC - Controls some 500 worldwide business entities, founded in 1927 by Donald Trump’s grandfather and now destroyed by Donald Trump.

DJT Holdings LLC - Management company for investments.

DJT Holdings Managing Member LLC - Pass-through company for DJT Holdings LLC, a tax dodge.

Trump Endeavor 12 LLC - Manages Trump National Doral Miami.

401 North Wabash Venture LLC - Don Junior’s construction and developing plaything.

Trump Old Post Office LLC - Manages Trump International Hotel Washington D.C., BLT Prime, The Spa by Ivanka Trump and Trump Gift Shop.

40 Wall Street LLC - Real estate control of said address/building.

Seven Springs LLC - 213 acres near Bedford, New York, owned by the Trump Organization and thus pobably subject to liquidation. Considered to be the family home by Donald Trump, was owned by the Organization to dodge property taxes.

 

I expect the appointment of a receiver to be delayed beyond the 10 days ordered, and Donald to start maneuvering to salvage things, but it’s doubtful this will be overturned. The Martin Act, which is what was relied upon to get this conviction, simply requires the numbers provided be false, and that was determined to be true in December of 2022.

Edit: Judge extends deadline for the two sides to propose a list of three possible receivers to 30 days and clarifies to Trump’s attorneys that he will address if the properties can continue under receivership or must be sold. Mar-a-Lago possibly listed in Trump Organization as a business owned property and not a personal property…which would mean it gets sold off.

Edited September 27, 2023 by TxRover

[MEADOWXI]

18 hours ago, TxRover said:

So, the following LLC’s have had their licenses cancelled in New York State, and are to be liquidated:

The Trump Organization LLC - Controls some 500 worldwide business entities, founded in 1927 by Donald Trump’s grandfather and now destroyed by Donald Trump.

DJT Holdings LLC - Management company for investments.

DJT Holdings Managing Member LLC - Pass-through company for DJT Holdings LLC, a tax dodge.

Trump Endeavor 12 LLC - Manages Trump National Doral Miami.

401 North Wabash Venture LLC - Don Junior’s construction and developing plaything.

Trump Old Post Office LLC - Manages Trump International Hotel Washington D.C., BLT Prime, The Spa by Ivanka Trump and Trump Gift Shop.

40 Wall Street LLC - Real estate control of said address/building.

Seven Springs LLC - 213 acres near Bedford, New York, owned by the Trump Organization and thus pobably subject to liquidation. Considered to be the family home by Donald Trump, was owned by the Organization to dodge property taxes.

 

I expect the appointment of a receiver to be delayed beyond the 10 days ordered, and Donald to start maneuvering to salvage things, but it’s doubtful this will be overturned. The Martin Act, which is what was relied upon to get this conviction, simply requires the numbers provided be false, and that was determined to be true in December of 2022.

Edit: Judge extends deadline for the two sides to propose a list of three possible receivers to 30 days and clarifies to Trump’s attorneys that he will address if the properties can continue under receivership or must be sold. Mar-a-Lago possibly listed in Trump Organization as a business owned property and not a personal property…which would mean it gets sold off.

Any Scottish golf courses due up for sale?

Saw on news he had falsified the value of the Menie one by overstating the number of houses he was allowed to build.

Edited September 28, 2023 by MEADOWXI

[RiG]

Trump may have a point about the wind turbines and whales in that the surveys that take place prior to development and some of the installation methods may actually be indirectly killing them due to increases in underwater noise. That said I suspect he doesn't mean/know this and he does actually think they are swimming into the blades and are getting chopped up and for that he should be mocked.

His comment about "You wouldn't see it once a year" is absolute garbage. NOAA have recorded something like 200 plus Humpback whale deaths down the east coast of the USA in the last 7 years. ~40% had evidence of a vessel strike which appears to be the most common cause of death. After that it is the result of entanglement in fishing gear.

[10menwent2mow]

42 minutes ago, MEADOWXI said:

Any Scottish golf courses due up for sale?

Saw on news he had falsified the value of the Menie one by overstating the number of houses he was allowed to build.

He also massively over valued the houses themselves. 

[Granny Danger]

44 minutes ago, MEADOWXI said:

Any Scottish golf courses due up for sale?

Saw on news he had falsified the value of the Menie one by overstating the number of houses he was allowed to build.

It would still be a pretty good buy.  According to their website it has 126 holes!

[10menwent2mow]

3 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

It would still be a pretty good buy.  According to their website it has 126 holes!

I guess they'll be basing that on the fact that there are 7 sets of tees per hole. 

[TxRover]

2 hours ago, MEADOWXI said:

Any Scottish golf courses due up for sale?

Saw on news he had falsified the value of the Menie one by overstating the number of houses he was allowed to build.

Actually, the courses are under the Trump Organization LLC umbrella, so it is possible he might be forced to divest.

[Guest]

5 hours ago, RiG said:

Trump may have a point about the wind turbines and whales in that the surveys that take place prior to development and some of the installation methods may actually be indirectly killing them due to increases in underwater noise. That said I suspect he doesn't mean/know this and he does actually think they are swimming into the blades and are getting chopped up and for that he should be mocked.

His comment about "You wouldn't see it once a year" is absolute garbage. NOAA have recorded something like 200 plus Humpback whale deaths down the east coast of the USA in the last 7 years. ~40% had evidence of a vessel strike which appears to be the most common cause of death. After that it is the result of entanglement in fishing gear.

I just liked the way he said it. Its also funny that he's trying to make whales a priority issue for South Carolina voters. 

[BFTD]

Remember when Donnie was constantly bragging about avoiding tax, because it made him big clever strong man who smart with money?

[Granny Danger]

Surprisingly Trump’s lawyers have advised the State Court in Georgia that he is not looking try to to move his case to Federal Court.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/28/politics/trump-georgia-election-subversion-federal-court/index.html

[welshbairn]

On 16/09/2023 at 11:32, welshbairn said:

First of his co-accused in Georgia has turned on him..

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/15/trump-lawyer-jenna-ellis

Tick tock... number 2..

Trump Co-Defendant in Georgia Election Interference Case Pleads Guilty Scott Hall, a Trump supporter who is among the 19 people charged, is the first defendant to plead guilty, and agreed to testify against other defendants.

Edited September 29, 2023 by welshbairn

[TxRover]

13 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

Surprisingly Trump’s lawyers have advised the State Court in Georgia that he is not looking try to to move his case to Federal Court.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/28/politics/trump-georgia-election-subversion-federal-court/index.html

The Federal Judge the case would go to is an Obama appointee. The State judge they are dealing with has, so far, been very fair and reasonable, so Trump likely views the State Court as more favorable to him (probably wrongly).

[TxRover]

Trump has petitioned the judge in the Cohan trial to delay a deposition due to his New York fraud trial starting 2 Oct, and his need to attend the first week of that trial. Judge has agreed to delay the deposition so Trump can attend the trial, but when asked by the press if he plans to attend, Trump’s answer is “…I may, I may…”. Donald is running out of these trump cards to play, especially if he fails to attend the New York trial this coming week. Judges do not look kindly upon lies in petitions submitted to courts. Perhaps he and his team hope the coming shutdown will mess up the schedules, but it looks like things are actually kicking off.