welshbairn Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 https://twitter.com/StormyDaniels/status/1032048646689378304 Incidentally I don't think they'll get him on the illegal campaign contributions. After he got away with #grabtheirpussiesgate he could just say it was nothing to do with the election, he just didn't want Milanda loaf finding out. I doubt very much it would have affected the election anyway, his supporters don't care, even the evangelicals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 The scenario if Trump panics, fires Mueller and tries to get the evidence shredded. I don't think the dems and liberals are taking into account that the trumpets might have some plans of their own. Could be an utter shitfest. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/case-mueller-firing-break-glass-democrats-prep-emergency-plan-n902526?cid=eml_nbn_20180822 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandstand Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 2 hours ago, dorlomin said: He has a further trial over offences in DC in the district court coming up in about a month or so. They are federal offences too 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bandstand said: They are federal offences too He could be liable to State charges too, but what happens when you have a President who totally ignores the conventions of power relationships that haven't been tested in the courts? The law has been flexible until now to allow a stable President freedom of action in a crisis, don't think the Founding Fathers or the Supreme Court had any consideration of what might happen if a narcissistic reality TV entertainer got in power. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 LockHerUp4Life.com is obviously a money making scam rather than genuine right wing idiocy. The midterms are going to be great for astroturfing, sock puppets, false flags and claims of bias on social media. A massively entertaining shitshow.There’s already more senior Republicans acknowledging Q-anon. What a country. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandstand Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 34 minutes ago, welshbairn said: He could be liable to State charges too, but what happens when you have a President who totally ignores the conventions of power relationships that haven't been tested in the courts? The law has been flexible until now to allow a stable President freedom of action in a crisis, don't think the Founding Fathers or the Supreme Court had any consideration of what might happen if a narcissistic reality TV entertainer got in power. They Founders didn't envisage political parties or a politicized Supreme Court either Its plausible that Trump has nominated for the court the guy that will be responsible for getting him off 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: https://twitter.com/StormyDaniels/status/1032048646689378304 Incidentally I don't think they'll get him on the illegal campaign contributions. After he got away with #grabtheirpussiesgate he could just say it was nothing to do with the election, he just didn't want Milanda loaf finding out. I doubt very much it would have affected the election anyway, his supporters don't care, even the evangelicals. Aye getting his lawyer to pay off porn stars can be argued as standard practice rather than campaign related. Did Trump pay the bill from Cohen personally or was it the campaign? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandstand Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Detournement said: Aye getting his lawyer to pay off porn stars can be argued as standard practice rather than campaign related. Did Trump pay the bill from Cohen personally or was it the campaign? There is a tape of them discussing it And the fact it the payments were made months before an election is more than enough evidence to make the case that it was intended to influence the outcome Just ask John Edwards 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Episode 459 of 'why is he so weird ?' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Just now, Bandstand said: There is a tape of them discussing it And the fact it the payments were made months before an election is more than enough evidence to make the case that it was intended to influence the outcome Just ask John Edwards Aye but why would that be illegal? The argument would surely need to be that it came from a undeclared source ie not the official campaign or a registered super pac. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 There is a tape of them discussing it And the fact it the payments were made months before an election is more than enough evidence to make the case that it was intended to influence the outcome Just ask John EdwardsJedwards? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandstand Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Detournement said: Aye but why would that be illegal? The argument would surely need to be that it came from a undeclared source ie not the official campaign or a registered super pac. Because it is then classified as a campaign contribution Michael Cohen has just pleaded guilty to two counts of illegal campaign contributions because of the pay offs he made for Trump 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Bandstand said: Because it is then classified as a campaign contribution Michael Cohen has just pleaded guilty to two counts of illegal campaign contributions because of the pay offs he made for Trump Aye but i've read that he then billed it someone but it's not clear if that was to Trump or the campaign. Edit - Trump paid it himself. It was disclosed in May. Edited August 22, 2018 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandstand Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Detournement said: Aye but i've read that he then billed it someone but it's not clear if that was to Trump or the campaign. He did it at Trumps request and Trump paid him back in installments 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 4 hours ago, Savage Henry said: I can't wait to become a Washington spin doctor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandstand Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Mark Connolly said: I can't wait to become a Washington spin doctor. The sad thing is Trump Fox news could claim Manafort worked for Hillary and not the Orange goon and most Trump voters would believe it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Quote Sanders says the president “did nothing wrong”. “Just because Michael Cohen made a plea deal doesn’t mean that implicates the president in anything,” she adds, after Cohen implicated the president in his plea deal. And Quote Here’s Trump’s response in full to a question about hush payments during the Fox & Friends interview. Fox & Friends co-host Ainsley Earhardt: “Did you know about the payments?” Trump: “Later on I knew. Later on. But you have to understand, Ainsley, what he did -- and they weren’t taken out of campaign finance, that’s the big thing. That’s a much bigger thing. Did they come out of the campaign? They didn’t come out of the campaign, they came from me. And I tweeted about it. You know, I put -- I don’t know if you know but I tweeted about the payments. But they didn’t come out of campaign. In fact, my first question when I heard about it was did they come out of the campaign because that could be a little dicey. And they didn’t come out of the campaign and that’s big. But they weren’t – that’s not a – it’s not even a campaign violation. If you look at President Obama, he had a massive campaign violation but he had a different attorney general and they viewed it a lot differently.” https://www.theguardian.com/world/news-blog/live/2018/aug/22/trump-turmoil-aftermath-cohen-manafort-verdicts-live 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 3 hours ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Episode 459 of 'why is he so weird ?' I am disappointed that he didn’t describe him as Bigly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 I have a feeling this could have been a significant day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 16 hours ago, welshbairn said: The scenario if Trump panics, fires Mueller and tries to get the evidence shredded. I don't think the dems and liberals are taking into account that the trumpets might have some plans of their own. Could be an utter shitfest. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/case-mueller-firing-break-glass-democrats-prep-emergency-plan-n902526?cid=eml_nbn_20180822 'I could run the investigation if I want', says Trump. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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