Monkey Tennis Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 0-0 or a crappy laboured 1-0 win that allows us to pretend qualification is a possibility and that there's some progress under Strachan. I've no qualms at all about saying I'd prefer a defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 23 minutes ago, Diamonds are Forever said: In what way is playing against Canada in a meaningless friendly in front of 2 men and a dog performing 'at a level beyond our pub league'? The best player on the park in that game plays in the league below our pub league! Armstrong has performed in numerous big games this season domestically and in Europe, not sure why people think players need 'given a chance' in crappy friendlies to somehow prove themselves. There is a lot of myth about players being 'able to step up to international level' like it is a much higher standard or a totally different game, when it's not. Every round of fixtures you'll see players who can't even get a game for their clubs but perform well in the internationals. Also, no-one who would be ahead of Armstrong in the queue has exactly proven themselves to be of a quality to get us to a major finals, so it's not like it's a big risk to include him over anyone else. If anything, International football is a worse standard than club football a lot of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthedee Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Why the f**k is the game at 7.45pm on a Sunday night? I reckon Strachan picked it just to piss us off even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I'm looking forward to seeing whatever Strachan's bat-shit crazy inclusion is tomorrow. He usually gives us one. I'd probably play this in the "Conte formation":GordonMartin Berra CooperAnya Brown Morrison Robbo/TierneySnodgrass Armstrong Fletcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I reckon Strachan picked it just to piss us off even more. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds are Forever Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 30 minutes ago, TheScarf said: If anything, International football is a worse standard than club football a lot of the time. Yip, obviously depends who you play for and who the games are against. But Armstrong plays in front of 50-60,000 every week and has played numerous European/Champions League matches, the idea that it's a risk to play him in front of 25,000 at home to Slovenia because he hasn't been 'tested' previously in some pointless kick about is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Indeed. He's played in far bigger games against far better players than what he'll potentially face tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrExile Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 26 minutes ago, Diamonds are Forever said: Yip, obviously depends who you play for and who the games are against. But Armstrong plays in front of 50-60,000 every week and has played numerous European/Champions League matches, the idea that it's a risk to play him in front of 25,000 at home to Slovenia because he hasn't been 'tested' previously in some pointless kick about is ridiculous. The risk is that we leave a better player out who's playing at a higher level. Similar to what happened when Leigh Griffiths was chosen against England. Midfield is one of the few areas where we have a good bunch to pick from and there is decent competition. Armstrong deserves a chance perhaps even from the bench but it wouldn't be the first time Strachans friendship with Celtic ended in a bad decision being made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F_T_Y Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Snodgrass has been woeful last couple of scotland games, but strachan will still persist i imagine. How i would line up. Mcgregor Tierney Martin Mulgrew Robertson Armstrong Fraser Cairney Brown Ritchie Griffiths Strachans probable line up. Gordon Anya Martin Mulgrew Tierney Fletcher Brown Forrest Snodgrass Ritchie C, Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Debbie Harry Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 2 hours ago, pandarilla said: He'd cope fine. Will Fraser be fit do we think? He'll play Forrest, Fraser from the bench as he is un-capped and no international experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I grew up on the same street as Armstrong. There was a slight dearth of kids around a similar age there, so we spent seemingly endless hours in the school holidays playing football together with three or four others - usually smacking a ball against a wall until late on in the evening; the other residents, in hindsight, were either deaf (a possibility given the demographics of the area) or just extremely tolerant. He was a bit better than the rest of us, in all honesty. I knocked him out of Cuppy once; he was characteristically magnanimous in defeat. That remains, to this day, my proudest footballing achievement. For these reasons alone, he should start tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Is "Cuppy" the same as "Wembley"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Is "Cuppy" the same as "Wembley"? Or world cup Willie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 16 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said: Is "Cuppy" the same as "Wembley"? 'Wembley' is an incorrect southern name for 'Cuppy', I believe, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Just bumped in to Slovenia going in to The Radisson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 All these posts and no ones rolled out the 'two up top at home' puffery yet. Agree regarding Armstrong, he's been excellent this season but is still un-capped. This IS a must win and i'm not sure this is the game to throw him in especially when we do have quite a few options in there. Are we still talking about must win games? Lithuania at home was must win. We didn't win.Then Slovakia was a game we had to win. We didn't win.Then England away was a must win game. We didn't win.Give it up. This is just flogging a dead horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Just had a look at Slovenia's squad. Didn't realise Oblak and Ilicic are Slovenian - both comfortably better than anything we have at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Debbie Harry Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 15 minutes ago, Scary Bear said: Are we still talking about must win games? Lithuania at home was must win. We didn't win. Then Slovakia was a game we had to win. We didn't win.Then England away was a must win game. We didn't win. Give it up. This is just flogging a dead horse. Was it aye?? Strachan, for the first time has stated this is a must win, his words. Its his last chance or he goes for me. Its really quite simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DAVIDB69 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I would eliminate anyone from starting plans who isn't playing regular club football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 The 'must win' thing is irritating. The first two fixtures were 'must wins' in the context of the competition, as they involved weak opposition. Our failure to beat Lithuania, rendered Slovakia away a 'must win'. Our humiliation in Slovakia rendered Wembley a 'must win'. Our humiliation at Wembley rendered tomorrow's game meaningless. This is the one Strachan calls a 'must win'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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