Oor Nicola Sturgeon thread.

[The Ghost of B A R P]

The way both reports have been received is evidence of how badly some people on here have lost their bearings.

The content of Hamilton, as I said yesterday, more or less says 'I won't be the person pulling the trigger. Thanks for the fee, now f**k off'. But the fact that people are punching the air in response to a report that is, again, so heavily redacted is just weird. Imagine this was Blair or Johnson; you'd be doing your nuts and taking it as straightforward proof that there's something up. Then look at his covering letter: he's telling you that even he, a supposedly independent investigator, still can't tell the whole story. It's as close as he can get to disowning the thing and thereby protecting his own reputation if things take a nasty turn in future.

(And I'll ignore the bit where he says it's 'not impossible' that Sturgeon forgot about 29 March, so I'll just conclude that she did forget; as above, 'I'm no pulling the trigger'.)

Then, after blindly celebrating a predictable whitewash, people buy straight in to Sturgeon's desperate attempt to undermine the committee report (remember when she was 'relishing' giving evidence and 'fully trusted' the process?). By any measure, the report is incredibly damning of govt and civil service process and decision-making. If it was my place of work, there would have been at least two 'terminations' and maybe a couple of 'final written warnings'. Even if you leave the possibility of an underlying criminal conspiracy to one side, it's a total clusterfuck... and the evidence that the SG dropped the original complainants once they had served their purpose just confirms the utter hypocrisy of shielding what went on behind 'the women'.

But still, as I said after her evidence, she's still not to blame... and nobody else is.

Heard that James Wolffe is trying to have Scotland renamed 'Stockholm' so that people suffering from the well-known syndrome by that name feel better... 

I'll give Sturgeon one thing: setting up not one, but two inquiries was a bit of a master-stroke. The wee game of pass-the-parcel at the end of both is kinda beautiful. Tony would be rightly proud.

But it will just buy her some more time. What happened, happened. No politician can function for long with that (and other stuff!) hanging round their necks.

Scottish politics is fucked.

[vikingTON]

2 hours ago, Ludo*1 said:

@Lex has not posted since Sunday and even then it was restricted to 2 posts on the St Mirren thread. The cowardly shitebag.

He's too busy preparing the open top bus for Saint Mirren's top six/League Cup double triumph.

[jakedee]

The way both reports have been received is evidence of how badly some people on here have lost their bearings.
The content of Hamilton, as I said yesterday, more or less says 'I won't be the person pulling the trigger. Thanks for the fee, now f**k off'. But the fact that people are punching the air in response to a report that is, again, so heavily redacted is just weird. Imagine this was Blair or Johnson; you'd be doing your nuts and taking it as straightforward proof that there's something up. Then look at his covering letter: he's telling you that even he, a supposedly independent investigator, still can't tell the whole story. It's as close as he can get to disowning the thing and thereby protecting his own reputation if things take a nasty turn in future.
(And I'll ignore the bit where he says it's 'not impossible' that Sturgeon forgot about 29 March, so I'll just conclude that she did forget; as above, 'I'm no pulling the trigger'.)
Then, after blindly celebrating a predictable whitewash, people buy straight in to Sturgeon's desperate attempt to undermine the committee report (remember when she was 'relishing' giving evidence and 'fully trusted' the process?). By any measure, the report is incredibly damning of govt and civil service process and decision-making. If it was my place of work, there would have been at least two 'terminations' and maybe a couple of 'final written warnings'. Even if you leave the possibility of an underlying criminal conspiracy to one side, it's a total clusterfuck... and the evidence that the SG dropped the original complainants once they had served their purpose just confirms the utter hypocrisy of shielding what went on behind 'the women'.
But still, as I said after her evidence, she's still not to blame... and nobody else is.
Heard that James Wolffe is trying to have Scotland renamed 'Stockholm' so that people suffering from the well-known syndrome by that name feel better... 
I'll give Sturgeon one thing: setting up not one, but two inquiries was a bit of a master-stroke. The wee game of pass-the-parcel at the end of both is kinda beautiful. Tony would be rightly proud.
But it will just buy her some more time. What happened, happened. No politician can function for long with that (and other stuff!) hanging round their necks.
Scottish politics is fucked.

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[HalfCutNinja]

5 minutes ago, The Ghost of B A R P said:

The way both reports have been received is evidence of how badly some people on here have lost their bearings.

The content of Hamilton, as I said yesterday, more or less says 'I won't be the person pulling the trigger. Thanks for the fee, now f**k off'. But the fact that people are punching the air in response to a report that is, again, so heavily redacted is just weird. Imagine this was Blair or Johnson; you'd be doing your nuts and taking it as straightforward proof that there's something up. Then look at his covering letter: he's telling you that even he, a supposedly independent investigator, still can't tell the whole story. It's as close as he can get to disowning the thing and thereby protecting his own reputation if things take a nasty turn in future.

(And I'll ignore the bit where he says it's 'not impossible' that Sturgeon forgot about 29 March, so I'll just conclude that she did forget; as above, 'I'm no pulling the trigger'.)

Then, after blindly celebrating a predictable whitewash, people buy straight in to Sturgeon's desperate attempt to undermine the committee report (remember when she was 'relishing' giving evidence and 'fully trusted' the process?). By any measure, the report is incredibly damning of govt and civil service process and decision-making. If it was my place of work, there would have been at least two 'terminations' and maybe a couple of 'final written warnings'. Even if you leave the possibility of an underlying criminal conspiracy to one side, it's a total clusterfuck... and the evidence that the SG dropped the original complainants once they had served their purpose just confirms the utter hypocrisy of shielding what went on behind 'the women'.

But still, as I said after her evidence, she's still not to blame... and nobody else is.

Heard that James Wolffe is trying to have Scotland renamed 'Stockholm' so that people suffering from the well-known syndrome by that name feel better... 

I'll give Sturgeon one thing: setting up not one, but two inquiries was a bit of a master-stroke. The wee game of pass-the-parcel at the end of both is kinda beautiful. Tony would be rightly proud.

But it will just buy her some more time. What happened, happened. No politician can function for long with that (and other stuff!) hanging round their necks.

Scottish politics is fucked.

[The Ghost of B A R P]

12 minutes ago, Caledonian1 said:

wow........really raging

 

2 minutes ago, jakedee said:

 

Spoiler

More red dots than arguments - or takers for a charity bet - tell me everything I need to know.

 

[Genuine Hibs Fan]

*taps the "Bring back the Heads Gone Thread" sign*

[Anonapersona]

5 minutes ago, The Ghost of B A R P said:

The way both reports have been received is evidence of how badly some people on here have lost their bearings.

The content of Hamilton, as I said yesterday, more or less says 'I won't be the person pulling the trigger. Thanks for the fee, now f**k off'. But the fact that people are punching the air in response to a report that is, again, so heavily redacted is just weird. Imagine this was Blair or Johnson; you'd be doing your nuts and taking it as straightforward proof that there's something up. Then look at his covering letter: he's telling you that even he, a supposedly independent investigator, still can't tell the whole story. It's as close as he can get to disowning the thing and thereby protecting his own reputation if things take a nasty turn in future.

(And I'll ignore the bit where he says it's 'not impossible' that Sturgeon forgot about 29 March, so I'll just conclude that she did forget; as above, 'I'm no pulling the trigger'.)

Then, after blindly celebrating a predictable whitewash, people buy straight in to Sturgeon's desperate attempt to undermine the committee report (remember when she was 'relishing' giving evidence and 'fully trusted' the process?). By any measure, the report is incredibly damning of govt and civil service process and decision-making. If it was my place of work, there would have been at least two 'terminations' and maybe a couple of 'final written warnings'. Even if you leave the possibility of an underlying criminal conspiracy to one side, it's a total clusterfuck... and the evidence that the SG dropped the original complainants once they had served their purpose just confirms the utter hypocrisy of shielding what went on behind 'the women'.

But still, as I said after her evidence, she's still not to blame... and nobody else is.

Heard that James Wolffe is trying to have Scotland renamed 'Stockholm' so that people suffering from the well-known syndrome by that name feel better... 

I'll give Sturgeon one thing: setting up not one, but two inquiries was a bit of a master-stroke. The wee game of pass-the-parcel at the end of both is kinda beautiful. Tony would be rightly proud.

But it will just buy her some more time. What happened, happened. No politician can function for long with that (and other stuff!) hanging round their necks.

Scottish politics is fucked.

Omg please tell me it's not true. He obviously has the power to do this and nobody can stop it.

We'll have to relearn that Edinburgh is the capital of Stockholm.

 

 

[The Ghost of B A R P]

1 minute ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said:

*taps the "Bring back the Heads Gone Thread" sign*

I'd hang on to it for now, if I were you; it will come in handy.

[Benjamin_Nevis]

13 minutes ago, The Ghost of B A R P said:

The way both reports have been received is evidence of how badly some people on here have lost their bearings.

The content of Hamilton, as I said yesterday, more or less says 'I won't be the person pulling the trigger. Thanks for the fee, now f**k off'. But the fact that people are punching the air in response to a report that is, again, so heavily redacted is just weird. Imagine this was Blair or Johnson; you'd be doing your nuts and taking it as straightforward proof that there's something up. Then look at his covering letter: he's telling you that even he, a supposedly independent investigator, still can't tell the whole story. It's as close as he can get to disowning the thing and thereby protecting his own reputation if things take a nasty turn in future.

(And I'll ignore the bit where he says it's 'not impossible' that Sturgeon forgot about 29 March, so I'll just conclude that she did forget; as above, 'I'm no pulling the trigger'.)

Then, after blindly celebrating a predictable whitewash, people buy straight in to Sturgeon's desperate attempt to undermine the committee report (remember when she was 'relishing' giving evidence and 'fully trusted' the process?). By any measure, the report is incredibly damning of govt and civil service process and decision-making. If it was my place of work, there would have been at least two 'terminations' and maybe a couple of 'final written warnings'. Even if you leave the possibility of an underlying criminal conspiracy to one side, it's a total clusterfuck... and the evidence that the SG dropped the original complainants once they had served their purpose just confirms the utter hypocrisy of shielding what went on behind 'the women'.

But still, as I said after her evidence, she's still not to blame... and nobody else is.

Heard that James Wolffe is trying to have Scotland renamed 'Stockholm' so that people suffering from the well-known syndrome by that name feel better... 

I'll give Sturgeon one thing: setting up not one, but two inquiries was a bit of a master-stroke. The wee game of pass-the-parcel at the end of both is kinda beautiful. Tony would be rightly proud.

But it will just buy her some more time. What happened, happened. No politician can function for long with that (and other stuff!) hanging round their necks.

Scottish politics is fucked.

You're really not taking this well are you? 

Delicious 

[doulikefish]

The ghost boy is more raging than all the other trolls and aliases of hb 

Fun to watch 

[RossBFaeDundee]

10 minutes ago, The Ghost of B A R P said:

More red dots than arguments

>Posts inane, drivelling conspiracy garbage that barely masks (and I'm being generous there) pure, seething rage, and a convincement of their warped idea of "justice" that will happen, which borders on QAnon-levels of delusion.

>"Why aren't people seriously trying to debate me?"

Edited March 23, 2021 by RossBFaeDundee

[O'Kelly Isley III]

3 minutes ago, The Ghost of B A R P said:

The way both reports have been received is evidence of how badly some people on here have lost their bearings.

The content of Hamilton, as I said yesterday, more or less says 'I won't be the person pulling the trigger. Thanks for the fee, now f**k off'. But the fact that people are punching the air in response to a report that is, again, so heavily redacted is just weird. Imagine this was Blair or Johnson; you'd be doing your nuts and taking it as straightforward proof that there's something up. Then look at his covering letter: he's telling you that even he, a supposedly independent investigator, still can't tell the whole story. It's as close as he can get to disowning the thing and thereby protecting his own reputation if things take a nasty turn in future.

(And I'll ignore the bit where he says it's 'not impossible' that Sturgeon forgot about 29 March, so I'll just conclude that she did forget; as above, 'I'm no pulling the trigger'.)

Then, after blindly celebrating a predictable whitewash, people buy straight in to Sturgeon's desperate attempt to undermine the committee report (remember when she was 'relishing' giving evidence and 'fully trusted' the process?). By any measure, the report is incredibly damning of govt and civil service process and decision-making. If it was my place of work, there would have been at least two 'terminations' and maybe a couple of 'final written warnings'. Even if you leave the possibility of an underlying criminal conspiracy to one side, it's a total clusterfuck... and the evidence that the SG dropped the original complainants once they had served their purpose just confirms the utter hypocrisy of shielding what went on behind 'the women'.

But still, as I said after her evidence, she's still not to blame... and nobody else is.

Heard that James Wolffe is trying to have Scotland renamed 'Stockholm' so that people suffering from the well-known syndrome by that name feel better... 

I'll give Sturgeon one thing: setting up not one, but two inquiries was a bit of a master-stroke. The wee game of pass-the-parcel at the end of both is kinda beautiful. Tony would be rightly proud.

But it will just buy her some more time. What happened, happened. No politician can function for long with that (and other stuff!) hanging round their necks.

Scottish politics is fucked.

You have at least been consistent throughout this, I'll give you that.  But since you mention Blair and Johnson, just imagine if the UK media had prosecuted their misdemeanors with even a tenth of the ferocity which has been directed at Sturgeon, history may well have taken a different path.

And Scottish politics has probably been fucked since about 1707, which is why we are where we are today.  But yes, this has been an unedifying episode all right, from the day that Salmond's groping paws first strayed right up until earlier today.  But you know what, faced with the final implosion of its Empire the British Establishment and its agents are going to fight the dirtiest of fights and Scotland will have to respond in kind.  At the moment I can think of no-one better than Nicola Sturgeon to lead that fight.  Apologies to the Marquis of Queensberry.

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For all my Tories looking fuming fans xx

 

 

[The Ghost of B A R P]

1 minute ago, Day of the Lords said:

You're really not taking this well are you? 

Delicious 

Glad you're enjoying yourself, duffer.

In the unlikely event that you ever have anything to say, let me know, eh?

[GiGi]

8 minutes ago, The Ghost of B A R P said:

 

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More red dots than arguments - or takers for a charity bet - tell me everything I need to know.

 

Does it, aye? You don't trust the independent report, the farce of a committee should be taken seriously even though they leaked their own conclusions before evidence was given, called for FM resignation before evidence was given, you somehow know more about a private meeting than the participants and independent investigator, and Scottish politics is fucked because you had a bad take. Did I miss anything?

[Jim McLean's Ghost]

24 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

 

Also just seem the result of the Vote of No Confidence:

65 against 

31 for

27 abstentions

So how did Baillie, Cole-Hamilton and Wightman vote?

Minter if they all abstained.

[The Ghost of B A R P]

2 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said:

You have at least been consistent throughout this, I'll give you that.  But since you mention Blair and Johnson, just imagine if the UK media had prosecuted their misdemeanors with even a tenth of the ferocity which has been directed at Sturgeon, history may well have taken a different path.

And Scottish politics has probably been fucked since about 1707, which is why we are where we are today.  But yes, this has been an unedifying episode all right, from the day that Salmond's groping paws first strayed right up until earlier today.  But you know what, faced with the final implosion of its Empire the British Establishment and its agents are going to fight the dirtiest of fights and Scotland will have to respond in kind.  At the moment I can think of no-one better than Nicola Sturgeon to lead that fight.  Apologies to the Marquis of Queensberry.

If you think that Nicola Sturgeon is either willing or able to take on the British establishment, you're in for a horrible few years. Doesn't actually matter what you think of her, she's compromised and they'll turn the guns full on her at a time of their choosing... if she ever dares do anything to warrant it.

I'll ask again - for the fourth time on here in the past couple of weeks: what happens next, even if the SNP/Greens get a majority in May?

2 minutes ago, RossBFaeDundee said:

>"Why aren't people seriously trying to debate me?"

Cos you'll lose, simple as that.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Lib Dem MSP Mike Rumbles supported the motion of no confidence, along with Reform UK's Scotland leader Michelle Ballantyne.

No surprise about the last one - she is a Tory in all but name.

Why did Rumbles not abstain along with the other Lib Dems?

[DeeTillEhDeh]

So how did Baillie, Cole-Hamilton and Wightman vote?
Minter if they all abstained.

Abstained apparently.

I can imagine that really stuck in Baillie's craw.

[Anonapersona]

2 minutes ago, The Ghost of B A R P said:

If you think that Nicola Sturgeon is either willing or able to take on the British establishment, you're in for a horrible few years. Doesn't actually matter what you think of her, she's compromised and they'll turn the guns full on her at a time of their choosing... if she ever dares do anything to warrant it.

I'll ask again - for the fourth time on here in the past couple of weeks: what happens next, even if the SNP/Greens get a majority in May?

Cos you'll lose, simple as that.

But she's not compromised. This whole drama has compromised a few folks, but not Sturgeon. Everything changed yesterday.

Your combination of wishful thinking and relentless tinfoil hattery isn't very compelling.