buddie06smfc Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Is there any word on the contract extension for Doyle-Hayes or are we waiting on the double announcement of no forfeiture punishment and 3-year extension for JDH? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Is there any word on the contract extension for Doyle-Hayes or are we waiting on the double announcement of no forfeiture punishment and 3-year extension for JDH?I think he’s stalling, which is fair enough. He will get more money elsewhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monthelie' Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, buddie06smfc said: Is there any word on the contract extension for Doyle-Hayes or are we waiting on the double announcement of no forfeiture punishment and 3-year extension for JDH? That would be a decent a announcement, but I fear the exact opposite will happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) Who needs the PDE when you've got Craigkillie? Edited January 14, 2021 by FTOF 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Good article on Conor McCarthy. Former Cork City captain Conor McCarthy on battling Covid and beating Rangers (echolive.ie) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralstonite Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 26 minutes ago, monthelie' said: That would be a decent a announcement, but I fear the exact opposite will happen. You fear his contract will be reduced by three years? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewh Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 BBC sport article. Jim been spending too much time with Fitz? Aiming to emulate Motherwell’s third place finish from last season? Mentioning well, Killie and Livi but leaving out the great achievements of the mighty Saintees? He must read this forum as he’s now winding us up too. PS I like Jim, hated him as a player, dirty b but effective. This Saint detests the idea of points being awarded or deducted, except for financial foul play. We Saints should stick together, all this P&B mocking is uncalled for. GIRUY on Saturday, if we’re switched on that is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torfason Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, andrewh said: BBC sport article. Jim been spending too much time with Fitz? Aiming to emulate Motherwell’s third place finish from last season? Mentioning well, Killie and Livi but leaving out the great achievements of the mighty Saintees? He must read this forum as he’s now winding us up too. PS I like Jim, hated him as a player, dirty b but effective. This Saint detests the idea of points being awarded or deducted, except for financial foul play. We Saints should stick together, all this P&B mocking is uncalled for. GIRUY on Saturday, if we’re switched on that is. The alliance started with the matchwinner bib strip of the late 80’s . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 A tweet from Killie (we haven't tweeted anything about it).. All depends on how you want to read that, but you could say that a decision has been made. That was sent out at 8:51, just under 3 hours after the appeal was meant to start and is written in the past tense. It certainly suggests a decision has been made. It's all conjecture, but you feel if the appeal was unsuccessful then the SPFL would be out of the blocks with a "see, told you we were right" type response. Perhaps I'm just reading too much in it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 While on the subject of tweets, here is "the big German lad" giving the usual "great bunch of lads, looking forward to getting on the pitch" interview.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZingaliMan Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Ric said: A tweet from Killie (we haven't tweeted anything about it).. All depends on how you want to read that, but you could say that a decision has been made. That was sent out at 8:51, just under 3 hours after the appeal was meant to start and is written in the past tense. It certainly suggests a decision has been made. It's all conjecture, but you feel if the appeal was unsuccessful then the SPFL would be out of the blocks with a "see, told you we were right" type response. Perhaps I'm just reading too much in it. It's an independent panel so I'm guessing the procedure will be. Guilty or Innocent. Both Saints and Killie have admitted guilty. Cant see how Guilty can be changed . It's the SPFL who decides what punishment. Will they see sense reducing the punishment ? I hope so but let's be honest its numpties who are runing our game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 It's an independent panel so I'm guessing the procedure will be. Guilty or Innocent. Both Saints and Killie have admitted guilty. Cant see how Guilty can be changed . It's the SPFL who decides what punishment. Will they see sense reducing the punishment ? I hope so but let's be honest its numpties who are runing our game. I doubt admission of guilt can be changed, but the punishment could be reduced. Unlikely as it is.JG in the PDE stating that negotiations with JDH are going well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 58 minutes ago, FTOF said: JG in the PDE stating that negotiations with JDH are going well. Interesting. That's twice he's come out with something like that, which is unusual for a guy who's normally so cautious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthBank Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 hours ago, FTOF said: I doubt admission of guilt can be changed, but the punishment could be reduced. Unlikely as it is. JG in the PDE stating that negotiations with JDH are going well. The punishment is an outrage . No club in Scotland has ever forfeited a League game with s 3-0 deficit due to being 'unable to fulfil a fixture'. Flu, frozen or waterlogged pitch or any other reason means a reschedule. Why, if the illness is Covid and not Flu, should a 3-0 forfeit be imposed? All SPFL Clubs were asked to vote on a motion of a 3-0 forfeit. This motion was rejected by the vast majority of clubs voting against. Yet the SPFL Board, in direct contravention to the wishes of its members, imposed a 3-0 forfeit. Yes, we got things wrong about Covid, like many Clubs, however we are being punished for being 'unable to fulfil' a fixture and there is no precedent for such an outrageous punishment nor any logic to it. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CambieBud Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Post of the Day from Northbank.Spot on[emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lola montez Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 hours ago, NorthBank said: The punishment is an outrage . No club in Scotland has ever forfeited a League game with s 3-0 deficit due to being 'unable to fulfil a fixture'. Flu, frozen or waterlogged pitch or any other reason means a reschedule. Why, if the illness is Covid and not Flu, should a 3-0 forfeit be imposed? All SPFL Clubs were asked to vote on a motion of a 3-0 forfeit. This motion was rejected by the vast majority of clubs voting against. Yet the SPFL Board, in direct contravention to the wishes of its members, imposed a 3-0 forfeit. Yes, we got things wrong about Covid, like many Clubs, however we are being punished for being 'unable to fulfil' a fixture and there is no precedent for such an outrageous punishment nor any logic to it. Not only clubs in Scotland, the English FA are postponing games as a precaution and not looking into the cause, they are fully aware it is a pandemic and protecting players should be the priority, it’s also a pandemic that clubs are struggling in so why would you punish when they are all struggling already 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I noted in that McCarthy interview that he too had Covid and found it tough. It's also emerged that Erwin had it. Got me wondering how many other players have had it. I'm convinced Obika had it, and see how Cammy McPherson can't get a game? Blind speculation, but I wonder if he's struggling for fitness and, far from being dropped/not trusted, they're actually looking after him a bit. Jim has name dropped him as being part the future of the club in that PDE piece, so that suggests there might be more to it, IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 14 hours ago, Ric said: A tweet from Killie (we haven't tweeted anything about it).. All depends on how you want to read that, but you could say that a decision has been made. That was sent out at 8:51, just under 3 hours after the appeal was meant to start and is written in the past tense. It certainly suggests a decision has been made. It's all conjecture, but you feel if the appeal was unsuccessful then the SPFL would be out of the blocks with a "see, told you we were right" type response. Perhaps I'm just reading too much in it. The evidence will have been submitted, but the panel will likely have then subsequently convened to discuss it. They may still be doing so. 10 hours ago, ZingaliMan said: It's an independent panel so I'm guessing the procedure will be. Guilty or Innocent. Both Saints and Killie have admitted guilty. Cant see how Guilty can be changed . It's the SPFL who decides what punishment. Will they see sense reducing the punishment ? I hope so but let's be honest its numpties who are runing our game. The panel has the right to uphold the existing punishment, completely throw out the case, impose any punishment as they see fit (harsher or more lenient) or to refer the case back to the SPFL. I doubt it will be thrown out completely, and I doubt it will be sent back to the SPFL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 43 minutes ago, craigkillie said: impose any punishment as they see fit (harsher or more lenient) That part gives me hope and angst at the same time. I wasn't aware that they could dish out a different punishment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: That part gives me hope and angst at the same time. I wasn't aware that they could dish out a different punishment. It's not clear whether they can definitely dish out a harsher penalty here, where clubs are specifically appealing that their penalty is too harsh, or whether that only applies to cases where the compliance officer has appealed that a club or player has been treated too leniently in a particular case. There's a single set of rules for the powers of the commitee that covers both instances, so it may be just written that way to save time. However, I'd imagine they might want to have the flexibility to remove the footballing penalty (the 3-0 defeats) but increase the financial penalty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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