Buttocks Brown Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: He ended up not playing for almost a year before Rangers took him on. Signed for Rangers in May and looks like he was with Aberdeen until at least November? Anyway, similar situation in that the kid / their parents hold all the cards once they hit 16. Can stick with the club that nurtured them or say "thanks, but goodbye". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AW saint Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 1 hour ago, NorthBank said: Very similar problems to last season. Midfield sitting too deep and passing the ball forward without supporting the forwards instead of carrying it forward. Too many side and back passes allowing the opposition to get everyone behind the ball. We need to get the ball forward a lot faster and support the front players. Gallagher was one player who was carrying the ball forward sometimes passing through the midfield but then would lose it causing panic behind him. But he was showing the midfield what they should have been doing. Thought Carson looked shakey. Gallagher didn't look like he would be adding to his Scotland caps anytime soon. Ayunga and Olusanya need to learn to pass/not fall over. O'hara was very good on Tuesday but only appeared occasionally yesterday. The midfield worries me. On the bench we only had Flynn and Reid and Reid may be off. Kiltie is not a midfielder. Threadbare to say the least. Very true viewpoint on where we are. Our lack of midfield depth is a real worry even when Baccus eventually comes to Scotland. There is no drive. O'Hara went missing yesterday and only Ethan stood out in midfield. We have no dig in the middle of the park. Robinson is is trying to copy the formation of Liverpool with players who are struggling. Our front 3 with the exception of Grieve dont look to have goals in them- This season is a genuine worry so far 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttocks Brown Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, btb said: IIRC guys like Mallan & Morgan both went for around £300k as it was accepted this would be the same as any development fee due - I know Reid is younger but is £125k really all we'd get if he was to go at the end of this season? Would be good bit less as Mallan and Morgan both left when they were 21 (Reid is 17). The development fee calculation is based on the number of years training at the club from age of 12. Dundee United were ordered to pay £200,000 to Rangers for a 19 year old (https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/13193015.dundee-utd-anger-204k-compensation-rangers-charlie-telfer/) so Reid's fee probably would be around what Celtic are offering now. Edited July 10, 2022 by Buttocks Brown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 1320Lichtie Posted July 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2022 (edited) First ever time I’ve done St Mirren away. My only previous memory of us playing you away was the game we won 3-2. I think I was maybe 8/9 year old, was helping my dad build a set of drawers up and Robbie Williams was on the radio I remember it as clear as day with Soccer Saturday flashing up St Mirren 2-3 Arbroath (George Rowe) in the last minute. Both us jumping about celebrating So obviously been a long time but I was really impressed with St Mirrens ground. Looks a bit boring on TV but when you’re there it’s quite tight and although the home support was not it’s usual and there were only 200 away fans if it was full I could imagine it being a good wee atmosphere On the defeat and the part time thing... keep hearing it and have for years but they players are all part time through choice. All of them could play FT football at some level if they wanted to it’s just not worth it for them. We will pay them handsomely for 2 nights training and a game and they can have their careers wage on top of it. The one thing that I can understand is the fitness thing... it worries me every year when we have these games because St Mirren will have probably had about 4/5 weeks of pre season training every day while we have only had couple nights each week and even then all of the squad need to get on their holidays at this time of year so they’ll have missed out on a few sessions and enjoyed themselves too while they were away We are still to make a few big signings which always come late into this month but we have a good squad of players. That centre half for us, Tam O’Brien, has had a whole load of big clubs after him. It’s not worth it for him as he’s got a good job away from football. I thought he was man of the match yesterday... I thought St Mirren were ok, I really didn’t think much of the guy upfront but you’ve obviously got Brophy to come back. I think it’s just that final third you need to work on. Carson/Gallagher and Shaughnessy on paper is solid. Good luck for rest of the season Edited July 10, 2022 by 1320Lichtie 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Buttocks Brown said: Signed for Rangers in May and looks like he was with Aberdeen until at least November? Anyway, similar situation in that the kid / their parents hold all the cards once they hit 16. Can stick with the club that nurtured them or say "thanks, but goodbye". Was just going with the post on AFC chat from the guy who follows the youth teams. Possible that he's meant almost a season and I've taken it as a calendar year 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 If Celtic have worked out that the club would only be due £125K in development at the end of this season, and that's how they've arrived at their valuation, then I'd tell them to GTF and hang onto Reid until then. Robinson has been clear that academy players are going to be a part of the 1st team squad this season so surely to f**k everyone from the player, his agent and his father should realise that, for the sake of his development, he's much better playing Premiership football than 5h tier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AW saint Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 27 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: If Celtic have worked out that the club would only be due £125K in development at the end of this season, and that's how they've arrived at their valuation, then I'd tell them to GTF and hang onto Reid until then. Robinson has been clear that academy players are going to be a part of the 1st team squad this season so surely to f**k everyone from the player, his agent and his father should realise that, for the sake of his development, he's much better playing Premiership football than 5h tier. Don't know how much game time ge will get for us. Robinson will be under serious pressure unless the team improves so may not risk Reid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said: surely to f**k everyone from the player, his agent and his father should realise that, for the sake of his development, he's much better playing Premiership football than 5h tier. The boy got barely any playing time for Queen's Park in third tier. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spam_Valley Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 1 hour ago, AW saint said: Don't know how much game time ge will get for us. Robinson will be under serious pressure unless the team improves so may not risk Reid. Robinson is under no pressure at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torfason Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 2 hours ago, AW saint said: Don't know how much game time ge will get for us. Robinson will be under serious pressure unless the team improves so may not risk Reid. Regardless of what managers say about building for the future etc, they know they are only 6-8 games away from the sack, so if he thinks he can take the £125K and sign someone for the team now……………….he’ll be all over it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Robinson is under no pressure at all.Every manager is under pressure very quickly if they keep losing like he has. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AW saint Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Spam_Valley said: Robinson is under no pressure at all. He is treading a fine line with our fans already. He certainly is under pressure. A few more results like yesterday wont help 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geo87 Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Benefit of selling him as opposed to losing him at end of contract is that we can build in a sell on fee which I’m 99.9% sure we would do (despite not being in the know in the slightest) This is exactly why B teams should get so far to f**k. Celtic and rangers (and hearts to a lesser extent) will just stockpile their youth teams with the best young talent about to win the lowland league which is full of boys clubs and uniTeams (it will be a great league eventually but currently a shambles). The SFA have enabled this mess, by doing everything they can to get B teams shoe horned into league 2 despite it being voted down by member clubs numerous times.Seriously depressing, and we wonder why we never progress as a nation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spam_Valley Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 1 hour ago, AW saint said: He is treading a fine line with our fans already. He certainly is under pressure. A few more results like yesterday wont help He’s treading a fine line with our many, many brain dead supporters. The section of the support that aren’t happy unless they’ve got something to spew about. The sensible fans amongst us know that Robinson won’t be under pressure after one game in the league cup and to even suggest that he is is fucking ludicrous. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AW saint Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, Spam_Valley said: He’s treading a fine line with our many, many brain dead supporters. The section of the support that aren’t happy unless they’ve got something to spew about. The sensible fans amongst us know that Robinson won’t be under pressure after one game in the league cup and to even suggest that he is is fucking ludicrous. Except its not based on one game. Its based on his record since taking over. You may be a fan boy but the jury is out so far 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenburn bud Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 I must admit it’s a bit early to be calling for Robinsons head at this stage of what is in reality, pre season. Having said that it’s inevitable that he’ll be under pressure from the fans should we stutter through these league cup ties in a similar fashion to yesterday. The midfield and forward line remain a concern for me, can’t help feeling we look very lightweight in key areas. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AW saint Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Don't think anyone is calling for his head. He will be under pressure if things dont improve going into the start of the season 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AW saint Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Dylan Reid to hold signing talks with Celtic tomorrow. Strange that we knocked back the same offer from Rangers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torfason Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 3 hours ago, glenburn bud said: I must admit it’s a bit early to be calling for Robinsons head at this stage of what is in reality, pre season. Having said that it’s inevitable that he’ll be under pressure from the fans should we stutter through these league cup ties in a similar fashion to yesterday. The midfield and forward line remain a concern for me, can’t help feeling we look very lightweight in key areas. I think that sums it up. He had a piss poor start to his job last season so any goodwill he had has been used up. He said he needed his own players.....now he has them he will be judged accordingly. St Mirren is a business and if any employee isn't performing then they will and should be replaced. To be clear we are absolutely NOT there but he is far from bullet proof. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttocks Brown Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 8 hours ago, AW saint said: Dylan Reid to hold signing talks with Celtic tomorrow. Strange that we knocked back the same offer from Rangers. Probably didn’t have the same add-ons Celtic were prepared to offer. As well as the B team coaches, Postecoglu will speak to him over Zoom according to the Record. Rangers will have to get back in touch pronto and match Celtic's offer if they want him. Could be a Celtic player by the end of the day.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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