jimmy boo Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Why does he say shit like this? https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4336464/st-mirren-tony-fitzpatrick-top-four-scotland/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1559888094 Also, you played two top six teams in your last ten games (lost both). Awful argument from the guy. All hail Stubbsy x f**k Stubbs. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zing. Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 32 minutes ago, jimmy boo said: 6 hours ago, Zing. said: Why does he say shit like this? https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4336464/st-mirren-tony-fitzpatrick-top-four-scotland/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1559888094 Also, you played two top six teams in your last ten games (lost both). Awful argument from the guy. All hail Stubbsy x f**k Stubbs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waverleytales Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 6 hours ago, monthelie' said: There's no way he should be the chief exec. He hasn't a clue. Club legend, but not a chief exec. What should our Chief Exec be doing if not talking passionately about the Club? Lawwell runs Scottish football obviously and Milne wanted 3 leagues of 8 but that apart what do the rest do? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, waverleytales said: What should our Chief Exec be doing if not talking passionately about the Club? Lawwell runs Scottish football obviously and Milne wanted 3 leagues of 8 but that apart what do the rest do? Talking sense. Would we like to have a long term aim for top 4 or 6? Of course. SHOULD we be top 4 or 6? No. To even publicly state that is stupid. There is not a single metric that has us in the top 4 or 6 clubs in the country to back up his assertion that it's our rightful place. Not even close. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waverleytales Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 14 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: Talking sense. Would we like to have a long term aim for top 4 or 6? Of course. SHOULD we be top 4 or 6? No. To even publicly state that is stupid. There is not a single metric that has us in the top 4 or 6 clubs in the country to back up his assertion that it's our rightful place. Not even close. We are shite but our long term aim is top 6. Thank you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddie06smfc Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 We can expect another influx of players from the continent this summer, or at least the pursuit of. Here’s hoping for similar success to January. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Have met Tony a few times, and he’s a top bloke. He doesn’t half come out with some shite mind you! If it annoys opposition fans though - keep it up Fitzy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 47 minutes ago, waverleytales said: What should our Chief Exec be doing if not talking passionately about the Club? Lawwell runs Scottish football obviously and Milne wanted 3 leagues of 8 but that apart what do the rest do? He can say what he wants, but it's been confirmed by Neilson and Stubbs that he involves finishing in the top four as part of his actual club strategy, which is just ludicrous, and harmful. Theres absolutely no benefit to him coming out to the mass media and saying what he does, it just piles pressure on everyone at the club and sets them up for a fall. It's not ambition to talk about prospective achievements, just delusion of where you are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Fitzpatrick sounds like a lovely guy with all the off pitch stuff etc but surely it doesn't help St Mirren to have senior figures coming across as totally delusional in the press constantly? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 hour ago, djchapsticks said: Talking sense. Would we like to have a long term aim for top 4 or 6? Of course. SHOULD we be top 4 or 6? No. To even publicly state that is stupid. There is not a single metric that has us in the top 4 or 6 clubs in the country to back up his assertion that it's our rightful place. Not even close. Nail on the head. It would be nice to get into the top six but we've never even been close to it since the split was introduced. It's going to take a hell of an improvement on our best ever SPL/Premiership season (whatever that was) to push for it. In a normal season there's probably only one, at most two, top six slots up for grabs as you'd imagine the Old Firm, the Edinburgh clubs and Aberdeen to take five of the places. It's not unachievable though as plenty of other clubs have shown. Talk of the top four is just nonsense and has no basis in reality or fact. How many times have we managed it? I know we finished third once in the 1980s but if that's what he's basing it on he's delusional. He is a great guy and it's nice hearing positive stuff after the negativity under the old board but we've gone from one extreme to the other. Ambition is also very well but it needs to be slightly realistic. Someone should maybe have a word and ask him to tone it down a bit. I still have my doubts as to whether or not he's qualified for his job - I think the previous board might have taken advantage of him because they'd have known they were getting a guy who would work far more hours than he was contracted to and they wouldn't have to pay him extra due to his love for the club. 34 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: He can say what he wants, but it's been confirmed by Neilson and Stubbs that he involves finishing in the top four as part of his actual club strategy, which is just ludicrous, and harmful. Theres absolutely no benefit to him coming out to the mass media and saying what he does, it just piles pressure on everyone at the club and sets them up for a fall. It's not ambition to talk about prospective achievements, just delusion of where you are. Stubbs moaned at the board for showing too much ambition with top four/six talk then, in the same interview moaned about a lack of ambition from the board so his mumblings are almost as nonsensical as Tony's. Also, on this occasion he didn't say it to the mass media - he said it to the club's TV channel, which is behind a paywall, and the Sun have ripped off the quotes (without having the good grace to mention that, as they usually do). I appreciate that doesn't change the fact he said it though! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) I take it @jaybeeeis related to 'Fitzy'? Thats a few times on here in the past couple of weeks he's been getting slagged on here by a load of posters and he's went around red dotting all the posts. Edited June 7, 2019 by Dele -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waverleytales Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, YassinMoutaouakil said: Fitzpatrick sounds like a lovely guy with all the off pitch stuff etc but surely it doesn't help St Mirren to have senior figures coming across as totally delusional in the press constantly? Some might say Tony was delusional believing he could be a top footballer but he made it. Nothing wrong with having big dreams - costs nothing. Tony is the perfect antidote to Tom English and Chris Sutton. Edited June 7, 2019 by waverleytales 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 Kearney confirms he's staying with us. Interesting to see him be so open about how much he's struggled being away from his family and he doesn't want to be selfish by upping his kids and unsettling them by moving them over unless he knows it's the 100% right thing to do. It suggests he did genuinely think about going home to be closer to them which is fair enough. I hope there is a solution that sorts everything out for all members of his family. It's clear when his kids are out on the park when they come over for matches, how much they dote on their dad and love being out there. The W7 guys also love involving his boy with the drum. Hope there is a solution which is beneficial to everyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellV1 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Clip of the interview for context 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie88 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Clip of the interview for context He’s some man our Tony! [emoji23] 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 "We were always in the top four, that's what I was used to at this club". Going by the excellent stmirren.info, Tony played for us between 1973 and 1989 we finished third in 1979/80 and fourth in 1980/81 (there's two other top four finishes much earlier in our finishes when the top level was in the first division. And just to completely blow Tony's claim out the window, those two top four finishes came during the two years he was at Bristol City 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted June 8, 2019 Author Share Posted June 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Stu said: "We were always in the top four, that's what I was used to at this club". Going by the excellent stmirren.info, Tony played for us between 1973 and 1989 we finished third in 1979/80 and fourth in 1980/81 (there's two other top four finishes much earlier in our finishes when the top level was in the first division. And just to completely blow Tony's claim out the window, those two top four finishes came during the two years he was at Bristol City Self publicising shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Just now, djchapsticks said: Self publicising shite. Fake news - I'm nothing to do with that website and never have been 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demented Zebra Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Stu said: Nail on the head. It would be nice to get into the top six but we've never even been close to it since the split was introduced. It's going to take a hell of an improvement on our best ever SPL/Premiership season (whatever that was) to push for it. In a normal season there's probably only one, at most two, top six slots up for grabs as you'd imagine the Old Firm, the Edinburgh clubs and Aberdeen to take five of the places. It's not unachievable though as plenty of other clubs have shown. Talk of the top four is just nonsense and has no basis in reality or fact. How many times have we managed it? I know we finished third once in the 1980s but if that's what he's basing it on he's delusional. He is a great guy and it's nice hearing positive stuff after the negativity under the old board but we've gone from one extreme to the other. Ambition is also very well but it needs to be slightly realistic. Someone should maybe have a word and ask him to tone it down a bit. I still have my doubts as to whether or not he's qualified for his job - I think the previous board might have taken advantage of him because they'd have known they were getting a guy who would work far more hours than he was contracted to and they wouldn't have to pay him extra due to his love for the club. Stubbs moaned at the board for showing too much ambition with top four/six talk then, in the same interview moaned about a lack of ambition from the board so his mumblings are almost as nonsensical as Tony's. Also, on this occasion he didn't say it to the mass media - he said it to the club's TV channel, which is behind a paywall, and the Sun have ripped off the quotes (without having the good grace to mention that, as they usually do). I appreciate that doesn't change the fact he said it though! Our problem for the past 20 years has been budget 1p in 1p out. Of course it's the right way to run a club so we need to generate more income not just from gete recipients. I would move Tony over to big Campbell's position get out there to local businesses which are plentiful in the Paisley area. We have a International airport on our doorstep. The funeral section is large these are the kind of areas to get involved. Campbell is a nice big bloke but he has been doing it for too long he has burnout no new ideas. Edit to add. First you need to get the basics right. Our catering contractors are bad everything they serve is cut to the bone in the name of profit. Their contract should not be renewed. I have been in catering all my life I know what I'm talking about. Edited June 8, 2019 by Demented Zebra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 15 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: He can say what he wants, but it's been confirmed by two completely shite managers Neilson and Stubbs that he involves finishing in the top four as part of his actual club strategy, which is just ludicrous, and harmful. FIFY. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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