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"The ICT Thread - From the Premiership to the Seaside"


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2 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

This is why fan ownership in football is so important.

Stirling Albion are in just about as chaotic a mess, and they are fan owned.  I think what is really important in football is basic competence.

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9 minutes ago, SirJimmyofNic said:

It looks like the only way out is administration, and whatever pence in the pound the directors can claw back (if indeed they are 100% the main creditors) after all its them that's made the colossal financial feck ups, and again that's only if administrators can find a suitable buyer/buyers

Really feel for you guys hope it all ends well for you

Or they may try to go to a pre-pack administration, selling at a few pence in the pound to the current directors, arguing that that’s the best deal available to the creditors. 

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1 hour ago, ExiledLichtie said:

Wait, what?  15 points this season?  Would that not mean that we would finish above them?  Should Arbroath be lawyering up?

Do you not learn basic numeracy in Angus?

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7 minutes ago, ExiledLichtie said:

Stirling Albion are in just about as chaotic a mess, and they are fan owned.  I think what is really important in football is basic competence.

And fan ownership doesn’t solve fundamental financial problems, and may mean that your ordinary punters lose money rather than rich owners. 

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8 minutes ago, ExiledLichtie said:

Stirling Albion are in just about as chaotic a mess, and they are fan owned.  I think what is really important in football is basic competence.

Surely they’re an anomaly?

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4 minutes ago, EdinburghBlue said:

Or they may try to go to a pre-pack administration, selling at a few pence in the pound to the current directors, arguing that that’s the best deal available to the creditors. 

Aye, but that's not really solving the problem for you the supporters  though

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33 minutes ago, The Great Stagsby said:

That last sentence "FOR CLARITY..."??!

As if somebody had simply got the wrong end of the stick when you previously announced "We're moving training to Kelty."

Painful stuff.

It’s appallingly worded.  The club is clearly a rudderless ship at this point.  

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37 minutes ago, Rcfc fan said:

As a county fan genuinely wishing you guys all the best, must be sickening as it’s clear to see blatant mismanagement at every juncture

This 👆

Good luck, hope you somehow manage to come out the other side. 

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Morrison’s biggest mistake was thinking the fans would just accept the Kelty training move and the continued employment of Scot Gardiner. The fucking idiot.

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46 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

They already have a license, though, versus looking to obtain one to join the SPFL. Does that change anything?

SFA licences are reviewed annually,  so yes they could argue they meet the criteria this summer as their review isn't until some time in 2024, likely once the season has started.  They would automatically fail on the criteria for 25/26 Tho.

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3 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

Morrison’s biggest mistake was thinking the fans would just accept the Kelty training move and the continued employment of Scot Gardiner. The fucking idiot.

He’s now trying to prove a point by walking away.   The ego of those two is absolutely unreal.  

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45 minutes ago, craigkillie said:


The newco bought the assets, including SFA membership of the existing club, rather than the Airdrie or Gretna situation where a completely new club started afresh with no connection to the previous one.

Ballantyne (sp) bought Clydebank and moved them and applied to change the name - they weren't a new club

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38 minutes ago, PB1994 said:

I would imagine about 90% of the debt we owe would be to our Directors. The only way I can see an investor coming in before Administration is if the Directors we owe money to are willing to write it off or take 10p in the pound or something along those lines.

Absolutely scunnered with this whole situation now.

 

34 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

I think its probably closer to 100%.

That, surely, is the angle for the next couple of days then? 

Are the existing directors willing to be bought out by some new mystery entity, for some agreed pence in the pound figure? The alternative being that they see the club go into administration, with the points deductions and everything that goes with it, to end up with a reduced figure anyway? 

I suppose this is where it comes down to questions of what the club owns and what it's worth. Does the club own the ground the land is on? Does it have some sort of astronomical book value because of the freeport? Would the extinction of the football operation actually free up enough assets for administrators to pay off debts more or less in full? 

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