John Lambies Doos Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Is he supposed to pretend that you can't tell someone's religion in NI? Or pretend that not only one religious persuasion votes DUP? In fairness many Irish nationalists used to vote iain paisley snr... as he did look after his constituents 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, The Chlamydia Kid said: Is he supposed to pretend that you can't tell someone's religion in NI? Or pretend that not only one religious persuasion votes DUP? You can't go by a name. I've a brother-in-law called Shaun and another one called Gerald, both protestants. My wife has a nephew called Gerald (an Orangeman). My wife's mother was called Geraldine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 How many people of a Unionist persusion have you ever met that are called Siobhan? I'd be amazed if you have even met one. How many people of a non-Unionist persuasion are capable of balanced discourse about the DUP? Sadly not that many as it is easier to deal with people as crude stereotypes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: You can't go by a name. I've a brother-in-law called Shaun and another one called Gerald, both protestants. My wife has a nephew called Gerald (an Orangeman). My wife's mother was called Geraldine. Is Shaun a cowboy? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 1 minute ago, LongTimeLurker said: How many people of a Unionist persusion have you ever met that are called Siobhan? I'd be amazed if you have even met one. How many people of a non-Unionist persuasion are capable of balanced discourse about the DUP? Sadly not that many as it is easier to deal with people as crude stereotypes. I'd a mate that worked in Ibrox ticket office in the 1990s. That was one of his party tricks naming the season tickets holders with the most Sellick name. You name it and sure enough it was there. There really was more than one Sean Patrick Aloysius supporting the Teddy Bears. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: How many people of a Unionist persusion have you ever met that are called Siobhan? I'd be amazed if you have even met one. How many people of a non-Unionist persuasion are capable of balanced discourse about the DUP? Sadly not that many as it is easier to deal with people as crude stereotypes. Don't think I've met any to be honest, but that wasn't what I was driving at. I was once very grateful to have Shaun and Gerald with me, years ago, when in a chip shop there was a rather belligerent nationalist giving off about some perceived injustice, so whenever I was placing my order I made sure to mention their names. Situation defused. ETA: I think it was Richard Needham against whom his ire was directed, so we're going back a bit. Edited June 11, 2017 by Jacksgranda 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: How many people of a Unionist persusion have you ever met that are called Siobhan? I'd be amazed if you have even met one. How many people of a non-Unionist persuasion are capable of balanced discourse about the DUP? Sadly not that many as it is easier to deal with people as crude stereotypes. Says the chump who has tried to dismiss the political analysis of someone that you haven;t heard of because she is called 'Siobhan'. Absolutely screaming bigotry on display from yourself, as usual. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Chlamydia Kid said: It's hardly fool proof but it's a decent guide in most cases - particularly in Northern Ireland. And it's not bigoted to notice that. If you took a hundred Northern Irish Sammy's, Ross's or Nigel's I think you could guess which side of the community they originated from and you'd more often than not be correct. I'm not disagreeing but it's not 100%. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Co.Down Hibee said: I used to see David Ervine down at the oval quite regularly , Nelson Mcausland supports Linfield, i know a guy he goes to games with. I think most of the DUP ones are grammar school boys so they tend to follow rugby. Nelson McCausland lived in the street facing mine, (as did many of SLF), and I never heard him express any interest in football, nor did I ever see him at a game in those days. If he is a fan then he is a very recent one, and I would guess it is for politically expedient reasons. Knowing the p***k from way back then, I'd prefer that he wasn't a Linfield fan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: Don't think I've met any to be honest, but that wasn't what I was driving at. I was once very grateful to have Shaun and Gerald with me, years ago, when in a chip shop there was a rather belligerent nationalist giving off about some perceived injustice, so whenever I was placing my order I made sure to mention their names. Situation defused. Sean vs Shaun usually narrows things down a bit in the same way as Stephen vs Steven. What always gets me is the way people from both parts of the island of Ireland often assume I am Roman Catholic based on my looks. Leads to awkward moments in social terms when the penny finally drops that I'm not. Edited June 11, 2017 by LongTimeLurker -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Just now, LongTimeLurker said: Sean vs Shaun usually narrows things down a bit in the same way as Stephen vs Steven. What always gets me is the way people from both parts of the island of Ireland often assume I am Roman Catholic based on my looks. Leads to awkward moment in social terms when the penny finally drops that I'm not. Yes, but I wasn't spelling out his name in the anecdote I posted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: ETA: I think it was Richard Needham against whom his ire was directed, so we're going back a bit. Sure it wasn't Richard Gere? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, virginton said: Says the chump who has tried to dismiss the political analysis of someone that you haven;t heard of because she is called 'Siobhan'. Absolutely screaming bigotry on display from yourself, as usual. ........................apart from the fact most names in Northern Ireland tend to be tribally assigned. When naming my daughter her mother (a Catholic) and I went for a neutral choice to avoid her being stereotyped in this fashion, but it is largely true. Then again, you never were too astute when dealing with Northern Ireland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Sean vs Shaun usually narrows things down a bit in the same way as Stephen vs Steven. What always gets me is the way people from both parts of the island of Ireland often assume I am Roman Catholic based on my looks. Leads to awkward moments in social terms when the penny finally drops that I'm not. How does a person manage to look like a Catholic? I'm intrigued. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Glenconner said: Thought Sport NI gave out the grants for stadiums. The money comes from Westminster and is filtered down through various bodies and political groups. That is why it took so long to get the moey for Windsor Park, despite it being there for ages. The DUP and SF have to horse trade before any agreement is made. Ulster Rugby got bored waiting for the whole football/gaa/rugby stadia shenanigans to be resolved and went on their own. Ballinamallard are, IMO, a fantastic example of how a small club should operate. They have come a long way in a very short time and, even if relegated, are well placed to return. Very friendly wee club too and, to my knowledge, untainted by any of the sectarian bullshit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Monkey Tennis said: How does a person manage to look like a Catholic? I'm intrigued. Haud oan, getting the tea and toast on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Monkey Tennis said: How does a person manage to look like a Catholic? I'm intrigued. Shellick tap? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Sean vs Shaun usually narrows things down a bit in the same way as Stephen vs Steven. What always gets me is the way people from both parts of the island of Ireland often assume I am Roman Catholic based on my looks. Leads to awkward moments in social terms when the penny finally drops that I'm not. Slightly off topic, but I remember many moons ago having a cannabis fuelled discussion with one of BBC Scotland's future top football reporters about the spelling of my pals second name (that happened to be shared by him). He was genuinely astonished that my friend wasn't a fellow 'Tim'. I didn't have a fucking clue what he was going on about. A Charles for the first person to guess the second name. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: How does a person manage to look like a Catholic? I'm intrigued. Some drunken bampot in Belfast pointed at me and said "you're a Tim" and pointed at my mate and said "and he's a ***". He was correct - dunno whether it was brown hair v blonde hair, lucky guesswork or if Northern Irish people have the pro or anti transubstantiation* version of gaydar. *Although should clarify I'm an atheist, always have been and tried to convince myself my relatives didn't actually believe that nonsense. Edited June 11, 2017 by The OP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Just now, The OP said: Some drunken bampot in Belfast pointed at me and said "you're a Tim" and pointed at my mate and said "and he's a ***". He was correct - dunno whether it was brown hair v blonde hair, lucky guesswork or if Northern Irish people have the pro or anti transubstantiation version of gaydar. I can usually have a damned good guess at someone's background when back home, based on a number of things, and your theory of a gaydar equivalence is spot on, because I can't explain it myself. Subtle little things like pronunciations help. I really don't miss that sort of shit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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