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Junior football, what is the future?


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13 hours ago, Ginaro said:

https://www.scottishjuniorfa.com/news/posts/2020/august/sjfa-restructuring-staffing/

The SJFA Management Committee have confirmed replacements for Tom Johnston (Secretary) and Iain McQueen (Assistant Secretary/Treasurer) who will both be leaving their Roles on 30th November 2020.

Following on from a series of meetings, the Management Committee have agreed to appoint Alex McDowall as Tom Johnston’s replacement, assisted by John Fyfe.

Alex McDowall will be Chief Operating Officer and John Fyfe will be Assistant Secretary/Treasurer.

In order to accept this neutral position, Alex McDowall stood down as Chairman of Gartcairn Football Club with immediate effect.

Both will take up these Roles from 1st December 2020.

Is it still a full time position?
What is the job description?
Was the post advertised or just jobs for the boys?

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4 hours ago, Tutankhamen said:

Is true he's the brother of an old Sevco player?

No idea on any Graham Fyfe angle my paranoid red-dotting friend, but think it's interesting that John Fyfe would surface again in blazer terms after what was in that Daily Record article I linked and after all 63 west region clubs subsequently smoothly moving over to the WoS and avoiding the acrimonious split that Burnieman and co wanted.

Looks from the outside like the SFA board and the west region blazers led by Gordon Roney probably came to some sort of arrangement on what the SFA would sign off on where the emergence of the WoS was concerned to avoid any further aggro in the pages of Scotland's chimpion. The LL probably weren't really calling the shots after a certain point on issues like having four sixth tier conferences and SJFA memberships being retained in other words.

That's pure speculation on my part though. The one detail that doesn't neatly fit that scenario is Felix McKenna's reaction to the four sixth tier conferences not happening. He would be more the SJFA blazer clique though, and not necessarily fully in the loop if Tom Johnston had been largely sidelined post-PWG collapse and was just going through the motions waiting for retirement by that point.

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Nickname used for Rangers based on the name of a holding company that was involved when their previous holding company got liquidated a few years back. Many fans of other clubs are obsessed with the idea that this makes them a new club with no claim on earlier titles and Honours. The SFA and UEFA think otherwise though.

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The same as Pacific Shelf? [emoji846]

Nickname used for Rangers based on the name of a holding company that was involved when their previous holding company got liquidated a few years back. Many fans of other clubs are obsessed with the idea that this makes them a new club with no claim on earlier titles and Honours. The SFA and UEFA think otherwise though.
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7 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:

The LL probably weren't really calling the shots after a certain point on issues like having four sixth tier conferences and SJFA memberships being retained in other words.

That's pure speculation on my part though.

The Lowland League had already accepted clubs retaining SJFA memberships before the issue of the conferences at Tier 6 took place.

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The Lowland League had already accepted clubs retaining SJFA memberships before the issue of the conferences at Tier 6 took place.
Correct, the LL told the clubs at the very first WoSFL information meeting back in March that they were free to retain membership of the SJFA.
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The chronology on that makes no difference to the question of whether the SFA board started to actively intervene behind the scenes before the first meeting between the LL and the clubs to make sure that the WoS unfolded in a way that the west region blazers were comfortable with rather than as an outright breakaway from the west region and the SJFA. At one point there was even talk of legal action and rival proposals going to the SFA's AGM, so initially the west region were very unhappy about what the LL were doing.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/ayrshire/scottish-junior-football-chiefs-hint-21601673

SJFA chiefs have hinted at taking action 'outside of the football authorities' if a proposed breakaway West of Scotland League leaves some Junior clubs in limbo.

John Fyfe, Interim General Secretary of the West Region, makes the admission - which suggests the issue could be dragged through the courts - in a memo sent out to member clubs tonight.

The missive reveals how recent talks held with the Lowland League over finding a  'mutually beneficial solution' to entering the SFA pyramid failed...

...Following the Scottish Junior F.A. statement of the 14th February 2020, the West Junior F.A. would confirm their direct engagement with George Fraser Chairman of the Lowland League. A meeting was held on Wednesday 19th February where the WJFA representatives presented a number of proposals for the Lowland League to consider in order to open up further meaningful discussions in order to reach a mutually beneficial solution.

It is with bitter disappointment that we report our proposals have been rejected. We see the WJFA structure as a perfect bespoke solution to meet the Lowland League plans for the creation of a West of Scotland League which would fill the Pyramid void in the geographical West of the country...

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Bit like the other mob in Bristol who went bust in 1982, their fans claim it never happened and they are the same club.Who cares ✌️ As to the ongoing Junior membership for next season, will there be any benefit to clubs who are now senior grade ?  apart from the Junior Cup. Could the Scottish Amateur clubs ever step up to junior level ? 

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I wonder which interpretation will 'give' here: the throwaway statement of an SFA President whose officeholders have demonstrated zero grasp of football at non-league level or the actual written rule book that the clubs and leagues within the system have signed up to. It's a real cliffhanger!

Looking forward to a future AFC Morton walking straight into the North Caledonian League 'because the SFA guy said so' though.

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5 minutes ago, virginton said:

I wonder which interpretation will 'give' here: the throwaway statement of an SFA President whose officeholders have demonstrated zero grasp of football at non-league level or the actual written rule book that the clubs and leagues within the system have signed up to. It's a real cliffhanger!

Looking forward to a future AFC Morton walking straight into the North Caledonian League 'because the SFA guy said so' though.

What?

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24 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

The actual written rule only applies to where Club 42 gets relegated to. There is nothing anywhere in the rules to stop Carnoustie Panmure joining the EoS, if the existing membership voted them in.

Correct. The EOS have already said this. 

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