BigDoddyKane Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) On 01/06/2022 at 00:08, Drew Brees said: Karamoko Dembele a free agent as of today, shame he never lived up to the hype, too many injuries and not enough chances to price himself. Needs 1st team football somewhere. If we learn anything we should stop overhyping some of our young players and putting pressure on them before they have achieved anything, hes the most recent in a long line we have done that too. If anything we have had a negative impact on their careers. Our lack of playing young players too meant there was rarely a chance for them to make that step up anyway. Hopefully Ange has changed this though and now the path to first team is supported and has some plan too it. Edited June 2, 2022 by BigDoddyKane 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 On 25/05/2022 at 15:29, Jinky67 said: A good achievement by Celtic, but it pales into insignificance when compared to the cup double by St Johnstone last season. A few years from now people will really start to comprehend how incredible the 2020-21 cup double by a team with the budget a fraction of most teams in the same league, really was. At the time of Celtic‘s European cup win teams could compete with each other on a far more level playing field. The bigger story is why Celtic and rangers have achieved so little, relatively speaking, in Europe when they’re practically guaranteed qualification every single season. That 1967 victory stands out mostly because of so much subsequent failure and underachievement. Though being the first British club did make it more noteworthy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 49 minutes ago, PauloPerth said: A good achievement by Celtic, but it pales into insignificance when compared to the cup double by St Johnstone last season. A few years from now people will really start to comprehend how incredible the 2020-21 cup double by a team with the budget a fraction of most teams in the same league, really was. At the time of Celtic‘s European cup win teams could compete with each other on a far more level playing field. The bigger story is why Celtic and rangers have achieved so little, relatively speaking, in Europe when they’re practically guaranteed qualification every single season. That 1967 victory stands out mostly because of so much subsequent failure and underachievement. Though being the first British club did make it more noteworthy. You’re trying too hard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 3 hours ago, PauloPerth said: A good achievement by Celtic, but it pales into insignificance when compared to the cup double by St Johnstone last season. A few years from now people will really start to comprehend how incredible the 2020-21 cup double by a team with the budget a fraction of most teams in the same league, really was. At the time of Celtic‘s European cup win teams could compete with each other on a far more level playing field. The bigger story is why Celtic and rangers have achieved so little, relatively speaking, in Europe when they’re practically guaranteed qualification every single season. That 1967 victory stands out mostly because of so much subsequent failure and underachievement. Though being the first British club did make it more noteworthy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Celtic’s run in 1966-67:- 1R Zurich (5-0 aggregate) 2R Nantes (6-2 aggregate) QF Vojvodina (2-1 aggregate) SF Dukla Prague (3-1 aggregate) F Internazionale (2-1) There were 4 or 5 decent sides in the tournament. The rest were fucking horseshit. The first round saw aggregate scores of 12-1, 8-4, 10-1 and even Linfield winning 9-4. Linfield went onto make the quarter finals ffs!! Hibs made the semi-finals in 1956, Rangers in 1960 and Dundee in 1963. Under the same format, Dundee United reached the semi finals in 1984, and in the 7 years after winning it, Celtic reached another final and the semi finals twice. In the 15 seasons immediately after Celtic won it, British (predominantly English) sides were in the final 9 times, winning 7. Its a great story; being the first British side to win it, but as a footballing achievement it is overrated to f**k. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 18 minutes ago, PauloPerth said: Celtic’s run in 1966-67:- 1R Zurich (5-0 aggregate) 2R Nantes (6-2 aggregate) QF Vojvodina (2-1 aggregate) SF Dukla Prague (3-1 aggregate) F Internazionale (2-1) There were 4 or 5 decent sides in the tournament. The rest were fucking horseshit. The first round saw aggregate scores of 12-1, 8-4, 10-1 and even Linfield winning 9-4. Linfield went onto make the quarter finals ffs!! Hibs made the semi-finals in 1956, Rangers in 1960 and Dundee in 1963. Under the same format, Dundee United reached the semi finals in 1984, and in the 7 years after winning it, Celtic reached another final and the semi finals twice. In the 15 seasons immediately after Celtic won it, British (predominantly English) sides were in the final 9 times, winning 7. Its a great story; being the first British side to win it, but as a footballing achievement it is overrated to f**k. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Jinky's struggling here. Here's hoping someone brings up the schools. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 20 minutes ago, PauloPerth said: Celtic’s run in 1966-67:- 1R Zurich (5-0 aggregate) 2R Nantes (6-2 aggregate) QF Vojvodina (2-1 aggregate) SF Dukla Prague (3-1 aggregate) F Internazionale (2-1) There were 4 or 5 decent sides in the tournament. The rest were fucking horseshit. The first round saw aggregate scores of 12-1, 8-4, 10-1 and even Linfield winning 9-4. Linfield went onto make the quarter finals ffs!! Hibs made the semi-finals in 1956, Rangers in 1960 and Dundee in 1963. Under the same format, Dundee United reached the semi finals in 1984, and in the 7 years after winning it, Celtic reached another final and the semi finals twice. In the 15 seasons immediately after Celtic won it, British (predominantly English) sides were in the final 9 times, winning 7. Its a great story; being the first British side to win it, but as a footballing achievement it is overrated to f**k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: Jinky's struggling here. Here's hoping someone brings up the schools. Indeed I do struggle when I come face to face with such dumbfuckery. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: Indeed I do struggle when I come face to face with such dumbfuckery. St Johnstone is clearly a greater achievement, relatively speaking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: St Johnstone is clearly a greater achievement, relatively speaking. Stop it please, you guys are fucking killing me. My sides genuinely can’t take too much more Edited June 2, 2022 by Jinky67 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Jinky67 said: 2 hours ago, Clown Job said: Deep down I think you know it’s true, and pretending to laugh it off is fooling nobody. The absolute emperor’s clothes of Scottish football that the media are too afraid to call out cos of the likely backlash from the brainwashed. If we’re talking purely in European terms, Nottingham Forest’s consecutive wins in the 1970’s probably takes it in terms of British achievement, Aberdeen cup winners cup for Scottish. Celtic making the uefa cup final in 2003 was a harder accomplishment than the 1967 win. St Johnstone overcoming the mammoth financial disparity to win two major honours in a single season in the modern era dwarfs Celtic’s European cup win. If Celtic hadn’t won the European cup that year, they or some other British club would have done so within the next 5 years anyway. No other non-OF club will ever win two major honours in a single Scottish football season again in the modern era due to the financial advantage held by the OF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 2 hours ago, PauloPerth said: Deep down I think you know it’s true, and pretending to laugh it off is fooling nobody. The absolute emperor’s clothes of Scottish football that the media are too afraid to call out cos of the likely backlash from the brainwashed. If we’re talking purely in European terms, Nottingham Forest’s consecutive wins in the 1970’s probably takes it in terms of British achievement, Aberdeen cup winners cup for Scottish. Celtic making the uefa cup final in 2003 was a harder accomplishment than the 1967 win. St Johnstone overcoming the mammoth financial disparity to win two major honours in a single season in the modern era dwarfs Celtic’s European cup win. If Celtic hadn’t won the European cup that year, they or some other British club would have done so within the next 5 years anyway. No other non-OF club will ever win two major honours in a single Scottish football season again in the modern era due to the financial advantage held by the OF. I’m laughing as it’s funny as here we are in a discussion/debate about a vote on the greatest club side to ever exist (which Celtic seem to have won), you seem to have somehow thrown St Johnstone 20/21 into the mix. Minter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 If any club Celtic beat to the trophy were spending more on wages for one player than their entire squad, then they'd have half an argument it was a better achievement than our double. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennie makevin Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Jinky67 said: I’m laughing as it’s funny as here we are in a discussion/debate about a vote on the greatest club side to ever exist (which Celtic seem to have won), you seem to have somehow thrown St Johnstone 20/21 into the mix. Minter Obviously as all objective followers of football will concur the real object of hilarity is the idea that Glasgow Celtic are the greatest club/team to ever have existed. A thousand polls could tell us they are and it still wouldn't be true. Now I won't muddy the waters with the St Johnstone claim but it's as clear as the nose on Tommy Gemmell's face that Nottingham Forest's 77-80 run of promotion, English champions & successive European champions dwarfs anything Celtic have ever achieved.l Edited June 3, 2022 by kennie makevin Typo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 The legitimacy of st johnstones claim is questionable but it certainly is funny watching it unfold, well done to all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Any truth in the rumours Celtic are trying to attract a fani? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Any truth in the rumours Celtic are trying to attract a fani?Season ticket time is it? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 2 hours ago, kennie makevin said: Obviously as all objective followers of football will concur the real object of hilarity is the idea that Glasgow Celtic are the greatest club/team to ever have existed. A thousand polls could tell us they are and it still wouldn't be true. Now I won't muddy the waters with the St Johnstone claim but it's as clear as the nose on Tommy Gemmell's face that Nottingham Forest's 77-80 run of promotion, English champions & successive European champions dwarfs anything Celtic have ever achieved.l 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 10 hours ago, Jinky67 said: I’m laughing as it’s funny as here we are in a discussion/debate about a vote on the greatest club side to ever exist (which Celtic seem to have won), you seem to have somehow thrown St Johnstone 20/21 into the mix. Minter No we weren’t. You might be discussing a poll by the bbc in which more Celtic fans voted than anyone else, but I was commenting on the video a page or two back of Alex Ferguson humouring Celtic fans at a Celtic event by saying winning the European cup was the greatest achievement in British football. Think @kennie makevin is right to highlight Nottingham Forest’s rise from flirting with relegation from tier 2 to league Champions, double league cup winners and double European cup winners in the space of 3 years. For all the talk of Pep, Jurgen and Ancelotti as the best ever, Brian Clough has to be in the conversation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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