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16 hours ago, JamesP_81 said:

The place I done my school work experience at had an apprentice , daft as a brush , who would fall for everything, sent for a big weight , tartan paint , new bubble for a spirit level the lot . When I was there the foreman sent him for a tin of scotch mist to take the piss out of him in front of the school kid.  The look on his face when the boy came back happily swinging a bucket with white steam billowing out and a big grin on his face was priceless.  The stores guys had taken pity on him and poured some liquid nitrogen into a bucket for him.  

At my secondary school one of the techy teachers sent one of my classmates for a cup of sparks from the grinder in the metalwork class. The other techy teacher played along and the student came back carefully holding his hand over the cup.  The teacher took the cup which was, surprise surprise, empty and told the kid to retrace his steps to find the lost sparks!  

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Overnight update - the principal has called a meeting with some top level folk to discuss this later this morning. Apparently they've had an avalanche of folk getting in touch with pretty much the same thing that we've been saying - that the team who pulled together all the information to submit to the accrediting body have fucked up in a massive way. 

The Prof's angry email is one of many but his is a good example - the accreditors saying there is no textbook associated with his course when he wrote the textbook.

 

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5 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

Overnight update - the principal has called a meeting with some top level folk to discuss this later this morning. Apparently they've had an avalanche of folk getting in touch with pretty much the same thing that we've been saying - that the team who pulled together all the information to submit to the accrediting body have fucked up in a massive way. 

The Prof's angry email is one of many but his is a good example - the accreditors saying there is no textbook associated with his course when he wrote the textbook.

 

This Accreditor, its not this bloke is it? VVVV

22 hours ago, Hampden Diehard said:

My daughter is working with a guy who's on a three month trial and who is permanently on his phone claiming he's too busy to do what he's told to do. He won't last.

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14 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

The Prof's angry email is one of many but his is a good example - the accreditors saying there is no textbook associated with his course when he wrote the textbook.

I think you’ve done the Prof a disservice - he sounds like a diligent and hard working professional. 

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Just now, oneteaminglasgow said:

I think you’ve done the Prof a disservice - he sounds like a diligent and hard working professional. 

When it comes to his own course that he created he really is. He just doesn't want to do much outside of that. 

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28 minutes ago, EvilScotsman said:

Are they in your Department or some kind of central team?

 

26 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

Central team. 

We've been centralising everything since 2019, and everything has gotten worse. 

Prior to 2019, were you personally responsible for all handbook material / info. pertaining to the course(s) you run ?

 

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1 minute ago, Florentine_Pogen said:

 

Prior to 2019, were you personally responsible for all handbook material / info. pertaining to the course(s) you run ?

 

Yes, I always have been. Whoever runs the course makes the handbook. 

The issue here is that *someone* made a new handbook that was a pile of shite and submitted that, rather than just asking for the proper one. 

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3 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

Yes, I always have been. Whoever runs the course makes the handbook. 

The issue here is that *someone* made a new handbook that was a pile of shite and submitted that, rather than just asking for the proper one. 

I'm a wee bit confused. You say that handbook production has been centralised since 2019 but the bold bit above implies that you are still responsible for your own h/book but some *random* admin bod (presumably unconnected with your specialism) has just decided to bypass yourself and produce a h/book on your behalf without any consultation ? If that is the case, then there is something seriously wrong within your admin / comms. function. It really beggars belief.

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Just now, Florentine_Pogen said:

I'm a wee bit confused. You say that handbook production has been centralised since 2019 but the bold bit above implies that you are still responsible for your own h/book but some *random* admin bod (presumably unconnected with your specialism) has just decided to bypass yourself and produce a h/book on your behalf without any consultation ? If that is the case, then there is something seriously wrong within your admin / comms. function. It really beggars belief.

Let me explain. 

For courses/modules that are taught, the course leader develops all the material for it on their own - the learning outcomes, the handbook, the lecture material, the assessment, etc. That has not been centralised, nor can it be. 

Pretty much every professional service has been centralised however. IT, HR, finance, student support, etc. Our academic operations team was centralised so we don't have a local one any more. Someone in this new centralised team has made a new handbook (based on what, I do not know) rather than asking for the proper ones. Then collated all this dross and sent it in. 

This was all done to make "efficiency savings" followed by a round of VR which has also left these new centralised teams chronically understaffed. 

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2 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

Let me explain. 

For courses/modules that are taught, the course leader develops all the material for it on their own - the learning outcomes, the handbook, the lecture material, the assessment, etc. That has not been centralised, nor can it be. 

Pretty much every professional service has been centralised however. IT, HR, finance, student support, etc. Our academic operations team was centralised so we don't have a local one any more. Someone in this new centralised team has made a new handbook (based on what, I do not know) rather than asking for the proper ones. Then collated all this dross and sent it in. 

This was all done to make "efficiency savings" followed by a round of VR which has also left these new centralised teams chronically understaffed. 

Thanks, that's much clearer.

"Efficiency savings" leading to frustration, confusion, drop in service standards and ultimately, more expense.

Whodda thunk it, eh ?

Seriously hope you and your colleagues can untangle this clusterfuvck.

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Scottsdad tale is no stranger to me. A sector completely overrun by fuckwits. Had a "planning meeting" with senior "management" earlier this week where they presented 20 slides of "performance data" to us. Every single piece of data was wrong.  

I quietly chortled, made my excuses and left. 

Useless c***s the lot of them (all on 6 figures mind you)

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On 13/12/2023 at 07:51, greendot said:

Not quite a work colleague but someone a client hired as an apprentice roofer recently. The guy had a few choice incidents during his short time as an apprentice. His highlights included while being asked to hold the ladder while the qualified roofer worked on a roof the customer phoned his boss to report that instead of holding the ladder he was lying on the grass on his phone. He also phoned his mum to pick him up over the summer cos it was too hot to work and phoned in the next day saying it was supposed to be hot again so he wouldn't be in! His crowning glory was asking his boss how long his 3 month trial was and what sort of pay rise he would get after that time had passed. Needless to say he didn't get kept on! Our client also worded an advert for a new apprentice to the effect that if you can't keep off your phone don't bother applying. 

We have apprentice at our work on the railway (track) and yeah some don’t get it that they’re actually at work!
We had one who in the middle of a job announced he had to go home as his dad had just phoned to tell him it was snowing! Same boy also couldn’t make it in once as his boots were in his car but his brother had borrowed it.

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