Savage Henry Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 By about noon tomorrow nobody will remember anything about that game apart from the result. Still, that suits me fine. How many times over the years have we played games that should been workmanlike, dull 2-0 wins and turned out to be stomach-churning, shambolic grinds? Yup. It was efficient. Never threatened. Did what was needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Mulgrew's ability to bring the ball out from defence is undervalued given our other limited options at CB. We really missed it when he went off, and Brown having to drop deeper to receive the ball made Scotland drop deeper. I really wasn't impressed with Phillips tonight, but there's still plenty more of him to see in a Scotland shirt, especially in games where we are chasing and need to counter. Tonight didn't suit him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy Blonde Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Pearbuyerbell said: It's important to view the performances through rational eyes. Tierney, Robertson, Mulgrew, Brown, Armstrong, and Griffiths have to play. Gordon did well in Lithuania but was poor against England. Phillips had a good 45 min in Lithuania followed by a poor 135 mins. Forrest offered little in both games. This is the area we need to change. Ryan Fraser, Barrie McKay, and Ollie Burke are the options though. Not Ritchie or Snodgrass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearbuyerbell Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 1 minute ago, accies1874 said: Mulgrew's ability to bring the ball out from defence is undervalued given our other limited options at CB. We really missed it when he went off, and Brown having to drop deeper to receive the ball made Scotland drop deeper. I really wasn't impressed with Phillips tonight, but there's still plenty more of him to see in a Scotland shirt, especially in games where we are chasing and need to counter. Tonight didn't suit him. 2 100% agree. Phillips had a mare tonight, but I want to see him wide right for 90 until we fully right him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I thought that was a professional performance. We knew what we had to do and accomplished it. Robertson is a class act. Our best player by some distance and playing for Liverpool will only make him better. The only change I would make would be Ritchie/Fraser for Forrest. But first time we have taken 6 points from a double header in 10 years so no complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearbuyerbell Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said: I thought that was a professional performance. We knew what we had to do and accomplished it. Robertson is a class act. Our best player by some distance and playing for Liverpool will only make him better. The only change I would make would be Ritchie/Fraser for Forrest. But first time we have taken 6 points from a double header in 10 years so no complaints. Bizarrely Phillips and now Robertson listed. Twas fairly obvious that Stuart Armstrong was the best player tonight in blue, wasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I rate Phillips highly, but I thought his decision making let him down tonight. He was poor in the first half, improved slightly in the second. He is sometimes lacking an element of composure when he works himself into a good shooting position, too. I would agree with Accies1874 above that Mulgrew's composure on the ball is an underrated asset, especially against opposition like Malta. Armstrong has slotted into the team seamlessly since Slovenia, acquitted himself well again tonight. Overall, happy enough with that performance; no outstanding individual showings, but a professional job done - and another clean sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red23 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 11 minutes ago, Pearbuyerbell said: 100% agree. Phillips had a mare tonight, but I want to see him wide right for 90 until we fully right him off. Guessing you didn't watch Phillips against Lithuania? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Pearbuyerbell said: Bizarrely Phillips and now Robertson listed. Twas fairly obvious that Stuart Armstrong was the best player tonight in blue, wasn't it? Sorry I meant Robertson is our best player overall. I think he will get better and better and hope his move to Liverpool will take him to the next level. Armstrong was excellent tonight and barring a bad mistake vs England has been excellent for us. Armstrong could easily make the step up to a bigger stage. Pretty pleased with how we are playing at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Tierney's better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearbuyerbell Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 17 minutes ago, red23 said: Guessing you didn't watch Phillips against Lithuania? 41 minutes ago, Pearbuyerbell said: Phillips had a good 45 min in Lithuania followed by a poor 135 mins. Watched it red23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippy2015 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 After results tonight if my maths are correct if we win our 2 games it's hard to be the worst 2nd placed team- Greece are on 10 with 2 games to play but one is against Gibraltar which doesn't count so max they can get is 13. Bosnia have 8 have to play Belgium at home and away to Estonia so max they can get is 14. We have 8 so two wins make 14. ( not sure what happens when same points take it it's goal difference where Bosnia plus 11si far superior) in Ireland's group a Serbia draw or win would be great for us- ireland have 10 so a win or draw for Serbia would mean best Ireland can get is 13 or 14 with there last games against Moldova home which wouldn't count and Wales away. Wales have 8 same as us Moldova tomoz which shouldn't could then if the win there 2 games against Georgia away and Ireland home they would also have 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted September 4, 2017 Author Share Posted September 4, 2017 Phillips looked very good Vs Lithuania, but very little came off for him tonight. Forrest remains a frustration but not as bad as some are making out. Fraser surely knocking on the door for a start in his place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Not very good.. 2 nil at home against Malta? Positives - Armstrong, Berra, Phillips. Awful - Broon, Forrest Meh- Griffiths, Robertson Northern Ireland don't have any superstars IIRC but punch well above their weight. We labour against Malta... It's weird how differently people see these games. I thought brown did absolutely fine, his usual solid game. I felt Griffiths and Phillips were both poor. Phillips wasted a lot and looked like his confidence took a knock and the thumb was just woeful whenever he was in a good position. Movement still good but there was at least one cross that he should've got in front of the defender for. Robertson was my motm, although I thought Armstrong was v good. Every clear cut chance seemed to come from Robertson penetrating their back line (ooh er). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 23 minutes ago, Rob1885 said: Tierney's better. He's got a lot of potential and is already a very good player but Robertson is a better player just now. I think regular football for Liverpool will also really benefit Robertson. Hopefully Tierney will move to a higher level in 2/3 years. He doesn't need to move just now as regular football at his age is good for his development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Did what we needed to do but that was absolutely dire. So poor and so deathly dull. Forrest; what's the point? To be fair, he wasn't the only one that had a stinker but he should be nowhere near that starting XI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kejan Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 1 hour ago, H Wragg said: Seeding c***s that weren't good enough to win their groups. Yes, I know we knew the rules before we started but what a fiddle. Yup. TFS could end up with more points than England and still be unneeded for the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kejan Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 We won, that is the main thing. We've got a chance, but so do the other two. I think Slovakia are the strongest and favourites for second, but one game as it comes. How sweet it would be to do the opposite of what we often do -start well but fade. Mon Scotland! Just once, prove yourselves to not be the cliche we tend to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I think we'll beat Slovakia, draw with Slovenia and miss out on 2nd on goal difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Dave Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Think Forrest gets a hard time off some. His pressing and work rate is excellent and is why he gets picked in big games. Tonight didn't suit him as he is limited technically and Malta sat in very deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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