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15 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said:

Don't really know anything about it but would be instinctively against stuff like that.  And obviously couldn't give the slightest fk.

The point I was getting at was that the English portray Wembley as "the home of football" when it didn't even exist until 1923, in fact, Wembley as a place was a hamlet on the outskirts of London at the time of its building. Things change and strictly speaking that bowling club in Partick is the real home of Scottish football but that (and the other previous versions of Hampden) but they have all been forgotten in the mists of time.

The ideal scenario would be a redeveloped Hampden (and Lesser Hampden for QP to play in) but sadly the funding isn't going to be available anytime soon. Murrayfield is a better facility, albeit not perfect for football, and with far better transport links. Rock and a hard place situation.

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1 minute ago, sjc said:

The point I was getting at was that the English portray Wembley as "the home of football" when it didn't even exist until 1923, in fact, Wembley as a place was a hamlet on the outskirts of London at the time of its building. Things change and strictly speaking that bowling club in Partick is the real home of Scottish football but that (and the other previous versions of Hampden) have all been forgotten in the mists of time.

The ideal scenario would be a redeveloped Hampden (and Lesser Hampden for QP to play in) but sadly the funding isn't going to be available anytime soon. Murrayfield is a better facility, albeit not perfect for football, and with far better transport links. Rock and a hard place situation.

Yeah I totally agree but it has to be Glasgow and Hampden

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Don’t see why it HAS to be Glasgow. I think on balance I’d now prefer to stay at Hampden but most countries have their national stadium in their capital rather than some provincial city. I just don’t understand the logic that Glasgow should have a monopoly of football. If anything there’s a Glasgow bias, look at referee appointments for example, that a move to Edinburgh might help alleviate.

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13 hours ago, Lurkst said:

Glasgow v Edinburgh thing mainly.  There can't be many other countries where the headquarters of the 2 main sports are in different cities.

 

 

Kind of mentality that holds us back a bit. Pervades everything in public life sadly.

 

Certainly not anywhere else in these islands has it, give or take the all Ireland rugby thing and two separate football teams.

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9 hours ago, Enigma said:

Don’t see why it HAS to be Glasgow. I think on balance I’d now prefer to stay at Hampden but most countries have their national stadium in their capital rather than some provincial city. I just don’t understand the logic that Glasgow should have a monopoly of football. If anything there’s a Glasgow bias, look at referee appointments for example, that a move to Edinburgh might help alleviate.

Edinburgh is not a football city and a no voting cesspit.  Get it right to f**k.  It's Glasgow and that's that. 

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Is there not a single Very Rich b*****d in Scotland who'd get together with other Very Rich b*****ds and get a new stadium complex sorted?

Done properly where it's in use for various activities every day of the week, surely there's a lot of mullah to be made mid and long-term. If not Hampden, there must be a site somewhere in Glasgow with easy access from the city centre, that will be attractive for not only football facilities.

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17 hours ago, Lurkst said:

There can't be many other countries where the headquarters of the 2 main sports are in different cities.

That said most other countries don't have 2 major field sports with their own stadiums anyway - Eire would be an example, and a few have "national stadiums" which are mainly athletics, tbf.

Greece and Portugal have such "national stadiums" slightly outside the capital but it's not like an Edinburgh/Glasgow situation.

England of course has 3 such for field sports all in London (Wembley, Twickenham, Lords).

Only equivalent situation to us are Lithuania, IIRC, where the national football stadium is in Vilnius. Poland was similar with Chorzow before they hosted Euro 2012. Croatia has nothing.

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This site is begging to be built on.

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Central with all the bonuses that brings, by the M8, 15 minute walk to George Square, loads of space for various facilities not only football-related, nearby colleges and universities can rent/partner facilities (sport, sport science, physio, etc.).

Would have to add a few more walking routes across the M8 though!

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This site is begging to be built on.
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Central with all the bonuses that brings, by the M8, 15 minute walk to George Square, loads of space for various facilities not only football-related, nearby colleges and universities can rent/partner facilities (sport, sport science, physio, etc.).
Would have to add a few more walking routes across the M8 though!

That’ll be student accommodation soon.
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There are as many stadiums with more than 50,000 seats in Glasgow as there are in the whole of Italy.

Not sure why I thought to share that, but there y'go.

Could also say Central Scotland has as many stadiums that size as France.

Or that Glasgow has three stadiums bigger than any stadium in any of the five Nordic nations.

Whatever we may think about ourselves, we like going to the football.

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Hampden's a shit stadium for football, especially if you're stuck in the corners or the end as the wee team. Why the f**k is the running track there, it's like Central Park. Demolish it or leave it as a mausoleum for Queens Park, whatever. Just move big games around the country, according to expected attendance. It's what grown up countries like Spain and Italy do. 

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15 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Hampden's a shit stadium for football, especially if you're stuck in the corners or the end as the wee team. Why the f**k is the running track there, it's like Central Park. Demolish it or leave it as a mausoleum for Queens Park, whatever. Just move big games around the country, according to expected attendance. It's what grown up countries like Spain and Italy do. 

I wonder if people in 'grown up' countries have such disdain for their country.  Maybe not having that is what makes them grown up.

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Yep, get the Scotland games all around the country; Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, even Kilmarnock for games against the lesser sides like Gibraltar or Malta.   There's nothing worse than seeing 20,000 in a 52,000 capacity stadium.

Wales did it with the Millenium, when they were half decent in sort of 2002-2006 and they were beating Italy and Russia, the Millennium looked great.  The FAW then realised, once it appeared they were pish again,  2006-2011ish, they should move the games to the Cardiff City stadium.  A far better football venue and it looks and sounds great when it's full for a qualifier or a friendly.

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7 hours ago, welshbairn said:

Hampden's a shit stadium for football, especially if you're stuck in the corners or the end as the wee team. Why the f**k is the running track there, it's like Central Park. Demolish it or leave it as a mausoleum for Queens Park, whatever. Just move big games around the country, according to expected attendance. It's what grown up countries like Spain and Italy do. 

 

16 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

Yep, get the Scotland games all around the country; Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, even Kilmarnock for games against the lesser sides like Gibraltar or Malta.   There's nothing worse than seeing 20,000 in a 52,000 capacity stadium.

Wales did it with the Millenium, when they were half decent in sort of 2002-2006 and they were beating Italy and Russia, the Millennium looked great.  The FAW then realised, once it appeared they were pish again,  2006-2011ish, they should move the games to the Cardiff City stadium.  A far better football venue and it looks and sounds great when it's full for a qualifier or a friendly.

As discussed numerous times this should get to f**k as it would mean giving more money to Celtic and Sevco.

It would also mean giving more money to Hearts, Hibs and Aberdeen. Bigger teams getting more money doesn't work well for competition.

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