williemillersmoustache Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 That was brought up in general politics.This isn't an either or thing. You can be critical of more than one thing at a time. Maybe on the enlightened p&b politics sub-forum but elsewhere, it is absolutely an either or thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitburn Vale Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Fuckin love RT,giving you the news as it is and without any Brit/state tv slant on things 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, Zetterlund said: RT doesn't need the likes of Salmond to give it legitimacy. It gets legitimacy for the quality of its output as evidenced by the many awards it regularly wins at international (western) film & TV festivals for news and documentaries. If it really was some kind of comical North Korean style propaganda megaphone as those who clearly don't watch it seem to think, it would be nowhere near these events alongside other established 'soft power' outlets like CNN, Deutsche Welle, Voice of America etc. One of the main criticisms aimed at it is that it only gives a platform to anti-western voices, but when was the last time anyone saw a pro-Russian expert on the BBC or CNN, or even someone neutral for that matter? RT is only a news story in itself because of the hysterical anti-Russian atmosphere our own propaganda has created so that anything Russian is automatically suspicious and not to be trusted. There’s no such thing as a pro Russian expert. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 With Maybots cabinet woes,the paradise papers being released this is pure "oh look a squirrel "for the yoon press .The only thing it has done is give the show some publicity I don't think they're really related are they? It's Labour who've been getting the most capital out of the paradise papers leaks and the Tories implosion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 People have had enough of experts anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 You know what is evidence of a propagandised population living in an echo chamber? One that slavishly defends its movement’s demagogues. One that refuses steadfastly to acknowledge that its leading figures could ever be prone to errors of judgment. One that see literally every criticism of those leaders as a conspiratorial plot rather than just an inevitable consequence of fallible politicians and an at least somewhat functioning third estate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Did the Hutton Inquiry not ensure that the BBC had to go with the Government line or everyone gets sacked? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 People have had enough of experts anyway. Yes. How did that anti-vaccine campaign work out for the ordinary person? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 The inventiveness over the shooting down of the Malaysian flight over Ukraine was impressive. A new bizarre theory every couple of days after each was proven wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo said: Did the Hutton Inquiry not ensure that the BBC had to go with the Government line or everyone gets sacked? Yeah page 6 paragraph 2 totally said that mate. Good point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Just now, Ad Lib said: Yeah page 6 paragraph 2 totally said that mate. Good point. What did page 6 paragraph 2 say? The fact is loads of people got the sack for reporting stuff that wasn't wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo said: What did page 6 paragraph 2 say? The fact is loads of people got the sack for reporting stuff that wasn't wrong. The board cravenly did the Government's bidding on that occasion while the management stood up to them. Not the BBC's finest hour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo said: What did page 6 paragraph 2 say? The fact is loads of people got the sack for reporting stuff that wasn't wrong. I was shitting all over your attempt to construct a sentence. The Hutton report said nothing of the sort. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Just now, Ad Lib said: I was shitting all over your attempt to construct a sentence. The Hutton report said nothing of the sort. I couldn't give a shit what it said. What were the results? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 14 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: Yes. How did that anti-vaccine campaign work out for the ordinary person? Fine I guess, I mean who needs protection from contagious infections anyway. Nigel knows best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB 4.2 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Ad Lib said: You know what is evidence of a propagandised population living in an echo chamber? One that slavishly defends its movement’s demagogues. .....and the only reason you're acting like a wet wipe is you dislike Alexander the Great. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 I quite like RT it has a lot of great documentaries. And some good shows like Galloways and Max airing a lot of subjects you wouldnt get covered on WMSM , Galloway doesn't do to badly out of the media over here.f**k sake he was on Daily Politics talking about the sex scandal which was interesting given his past comments on sex. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 1 hour ago, McQuade said: I don't see any difference between Salmond having a platform on RT and other Politicians having a platform on the Daily Mail. I quite like RT it has a lot of great documentaries. And some good shows like Galloways and Max airing a lot of subjects you wouldnt get covered on WMSM , Only today Sputnik Show was slaughtering the Queen's tax dodging and other media moguls, in a way you'd never see here. And to be fair some shows on it are hysterically biased, like the Baldy guy and the wee guy with the bow tie The Daily Mail isn't the propaganda arm of a state that kills and locks up journalists. That's the difference. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 5 hours ago, welshbairn said: Who? Okay, lets start with Lord Tony Hall Director General of the BBC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, Ad Lib said: The Daily Mail isn't the propaganda arm of a state that kills and locks up journalists. That's the difference. Exactly, the British state would never lock up or kill people it disagrees with. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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