Loondave1 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 I welcome his new gig on RT.Just confirms the big belly flopper his political career has taken since the highs of pre Indy referendum 2014.Basically his bloated corpse has washed up on the beach of multi channel TV.I wish him all the best.Maybe he will wear a "cool" hat like Mr Galloway.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Loondave1 said: I welcome his new gig on RT.Just confirms the big belly flopper his political career has taken since the highs of pre Indy referendum 2014.Basically his bloated corpse has washed up on the beach of multi channel TV.I wish him all the best.Maybe he will wear a "cool" hat like Mr Galloway.. ^^^^lights fuse paper and stands well back... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Loondave1 said: I welcome his new gig on RT.Just confirms the big belly flopper his political career has taken since the highs of pre Indy referendum 2014.Basically his bloated corpse has washed up on the beach of multi channel TV.I wish him all the best.Maybe he will wear a "cool" hat like Mr Galloway.. Still a terrible troll but you keep on trying 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kejan Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 How's your window cleaner, Loonie? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 It now appears comrade corbyn took 20k for appearing on Press Tv 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Colkitto said: The UK Prime Minister, Government Minister and military all justifying the killing of journalists.. Yes, bombing the TV station of a genocidal dictatorship’s propaganda arm is exactly the same as getting the KGB to covertly abduct and assassinate dissenting journalists... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said: Yes it is. Either the country's political pundits heads all collectively exploded over May licking the balls of the worst right wing hate rag in the country or it didn't. Just because the Tories lower the bar for what constitutes a healthy democratic relationship between politics and the press doesn’t make it okay for Alex Salmond to pull the bar down lower still and *still* not clear it. Edited November 12, 2017 by Ad Lib 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Loondave1 said: Maybe he will wear a "cool" hat like Mr Galloway.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 35 minutes ago, doulikefish said: It now appears comrade corbyn took 20k for appearing on Press Tv Something that should, very obviously, be roundly condemned for pretty much exactly the same reasons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 10 minutes ago, Ad Lib said: Yes, bombing the TV station of a genocidal dictatorship’s propaganda arm is exactly the same as getting the KGB to covertly abduct and assassinate dissenting journalists... So it's down to what kind of circumstances on how we kill journalists...I get it now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menzel Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 People genuinely struggling with the difference between state media and a public broadcaster here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 It now appears comrade corbyn took 20k for appearing on Press Tv This isn't the most relevant place to discuss this is it when the Tories are currently weaponising it to let their Foreign Sec off the hook for potentially adding years on to a woman's sentence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 People genuinely struggling with the difference between state media and a public broadcaster here. They also don't understand the difference between media bias and propaganda. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 30 minutes ago, Colkitto said: So it's down to what kind of circumstances on how we kill journalists...I get it now Puppet propagandists for genocidal dictators aren’t journalists and aren’t conducting journalism. Bombing Milosovic’s TV stations helped to stop genocide. Helping the Russian Government to cover up the covert abduction and assassination of journalists enables and protects a regime that explicitly protects a dictator that uses chemical weapons on civillians in Syria. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Ad Lib said: Puppet propagandists for genocidal dictators aren’t journalists and aren’t conducting journalism. Bombing Milosovic’s TV stations helped to stop genocide. Helping the Russian Government to cover up the covert abduction and assassination of journalists enables and protects a regime that explicitly protects a dictator that uses chemical weapons on civillians in Syria. Not sure how the US bombing Aljazeera in Baghdad and Kabul helped anyone. Or killing TV staff in Belgrade because you don't like what they're saying. Edited November 12, 2017 by welshbairn Correction Beirut to Baghdad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Not sure how the US bombing Aljazeera in Beirut and Kabul helped anyone. Or killing TV staff in Belgrade because you don't like what they're saying. The conduct of the US military has no bearing on this thread. They didn’t “kill TV staff in Belgrade because they didn’t like what they were saying”. They destroyed the infrastructure of a state propaganda machine that was controlling political messaging to enable a genocidal dictator to maintain control over his civil warring country. The deaths of staff was incidental to, not the object of, the bombing. When the KGB, covertly, abducts and kills journalists it is not the same as bombing a TV station. It is done specifically to silence dissent and to strengthen authoritarian rule; not to challenge it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 This is like a f*cking Old Firm thread with all the whataboutery. The tribalism of politics is really depressing. I'm perfectly comfortable criticising anyone, whether I happen to like them or not, for going on Russia Today. It's like the Labour supporters who were raging at the Guardian and BBC for reporting on the abuse of Bex Bailey, because it was taking it was distracting attention from the Tory scandals .I'm also happy to criticise anyone working for the Daily Mail (and I've seen lots of criticism of May going to Dacre's party), or going on Press TV. Also, the people going "state broadcaster" and accusing the BBC of being a government mouthpiece must have been away last week when a story broken by the BBC forced a cabinet minister to resign. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, Ad Lib said: The conduct of the US military has no bearing on this thread. They didn’t “kill TV staff in Belgrade because they didn’t like what they were saying”. They destroyed the infrastructure of a state propaganda machine that was controlling political messaging to enable a genocidal dictator to maintain control over his civil warring country. The deaths of staff was incidental to, not the object of, the bombing. When the KGB, covertly, abducts and kills journalists it is not the same as bombing a TV station. It is done specifically to silence dissent and to strengthen authoritarian rule; not to challenge it. You frequently undermine your own arguments by taking things to the logical extreme and end up defending the indefensible. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Vince Cable here, leader of the Liberal Democrats. Appearing on RT and legitimizing Putin's propaganda. Jeremy Corbyn, leader of her majesties opposition. Appearing on RT and helping the Russian government cover up the abduction and murder of journalists. David Davis, Brexit Secretary. Appearing on RT and now complicit in the annexation of Crimea. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Vince Cable here, leader of the Liberal Democrats. Appearing on RT and legitimizing Putin's propaganda. Jeremy Corbyn, leader of her majesties opposition. Appearing on RT and helping the Russian government cover up the abduction and murder of journalists. David Davis, Brexit Secretary. Appearing on RT and now complicit in the annexation of Crimea. Whataboutery.I personally don't think any of them should be appearing on RT - it just legitimises their bullshit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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