rb123! Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, Hursty said: The thing that bugs me re: the keeper is that it seems to be the only position where fans seem to have less patience with a youngster than they would with someone 'experienced'. I was thinking as an example Scully at Morton - saw folk using him as an example of an experienced keeper we should be signing - yet look at the 2 errors he made on his Morton debut against us. I cant help but feel that is Doohan had made those errors on his debut he would have been slaughtered, but if we had signed Scully and he did it, he would have been given a chance before being written off. I think it's because if a youngster is playing in the outfield 10 and makes a mistake it's highly likely that A - the mistake won't lead to a goal and B - there is another 9 outfield players there to try and help him out and prevent any danger happening from the mistake. Problem with the goalie is that if he makes a mistake there's a 99% chance the outcome of it is that we've conceded a goal and possibly now losing the game. Do agree though that the goalie position seems to get constant abuse now and majority of supporters seem to have a very little patience or willingness to give him a chance. Personally i was very impressed in the Morton game when he came out and caught the cross and did a massive throw up the pitch to try and get us countering from the corner. With our quick attackers, a goalie who's willing to do that could come in handy in games which are stretched and in scenarios where there's a chance to break. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hursty Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, rb123! said: I think it's because if a youngster is playing in the outfield 10 and makes a mistake it's highly likely that A - the mistake won't lead to a goal and B - there is another 9 outfield players there to try and help him out and prevent any danger happening from the mistake. Problem with the goalie is that if he makes a mistake there's a 99% chance the outcome of it is that we've conceded a goal and possibly now losing the game. Do agree though that the goalie position seems to get constant abuse now and majority of supporters seem to have a very little patience or willingness to give him a chance. Personally i was very impressed in the Morton game when he came out and caught the cross and did a massive throw up the pitch to try and get us countering from the corner. With our quick attackers, a goalie who's willing to do that could come in handy in games which are stretched and in scenarios where there's a chance to break. Aye I totally get that - it's more just the fact that the exact same mistakes from a more experienced keeper would be less focussed on, certainly in their first few games. Fleming being a perfect example. Still - only time will tell - fingers well and truly crossed that he gets a good few solid games under his belt to begin with. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne's man Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Just let Doohan get on with it. If he makes mistakes, he will learn from them. All this talk of how inexperienced he is and how we could do with an experienced Keeper is nonsense, Mccall brought him in to do a job and shows a bit of faith in the boy, we should have faith as well. Doohan will get nowhere if we are continuously negative about his performances. As for slating him at games when he makes a mistake, he's what? 20 years old? Goalkeepers can play on to their mid forties. Signed on with Celtic for four years for a reason. So I'm going to back the Doohan chappie for the future. It all starts at Somerset :-) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calayrdonia Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) The Albion keeper did get absolute dogs abuse. The amount of times that “fat c***” was shouted at him was staggering. Saying it once in the heat of the moment if something significant happens then I’m sure most people can turn a blind eye but I can understand other people getting upset at the same fans shouting it over and over when there are kids with them. Just no need. Edited July 23, 2018 by Calayrdonia 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 It's not just us though, using Scully as the example, the Morton fans DID slaughter him and many of them have already made up their minds that they've signed a dud. As for us, we've just signed the current Scotland U21 keeper who's parent club is huge in Scottish terms and pretty decent in European terms, their Manager is also very highly regarded across the game and he's just seen fit to hand the boy a 4 year contract, not only that but Doohan has been learning and training with the best keeper in Scotland in recent years, so personally I think we've done pretty well by getting him. As another reality check, we should remember that there's not exactly a host of top quality available kepers out there and certainly not loads unsigned who are just dying to come and play for a club who've just been promoted to Scotlands 2nd tier. Let's just all get behind the team and get excited about what could potentially be one of our best and most exciting seasons in well over a decade............... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waniche Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Was sitting thinking about past keepers and how many we’ve had in our past that played at international level. So far found: Kristian Finnbogason - Iceland Thomas Gill - Norway Jens Martin Knudsen - Faroe Islands Alan Rough - Scotland (Although only played one game for Ayr) Henry Smith - Scotland David Stewart - Scotland Yes, I am bored lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) Marius Rovde ever get a cap? Edited July 23, 2018 by Iain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waniche Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 12 minutes ago, Iain said: Marius Rovde ever get a cap? Don’t think so, if he did it’s not on soccerbase or wiki. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne's man Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 35 minutes ago, Calayrdonia said: The Albion keeper did get absolute dogs abuse. The amount of times that “fat c***” was shouted at him was staggering. Saying it once in the heat of the moment if something significant happens then I’m sure most people can turn a blind eye but I can understand other people getting upset at the same fans shouting it over and over when there are kids with them. Just no need. Actually had to explain to my boy that the Goalkeeper was Mr. Blobby. (It was the only little people substitute I could think of at the time.) and that the people shouting at him were just singing the Mr. Bobby song. He was pretty big for a keeper tbf. Though keepers have feelings too..... And fridges full of donuts by the looks of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placidcasual Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I'm glad we are not going back there this year. I'm the same and it's practically a home game for me because of where I stay but since East Stirling have been away, they must be the least progressive outfit in the league. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrunitedfw Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 51 minutes ago, Calayrdonia said: The Albion keeper did get absolute dogs abuse. The amount of times that “fat c***” was shouted at him was staggering. Saying it once in the heat of the moment if something significant happens then I’m sure most people can turn a blind eye but I can understand other people getting upset at the same fans shouting it over and over when there are kids with them. Just no need. If your getting upset over an opposition player being called a fat c**t then I don’t think football is the sport for you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 50 minutes ago, Waniche said: Was sitting thinking about past keepers and how many we’ve had in our past that played at international level. So far found: Kristian Finnbogason - Iceland Thomas Gill - Norway Jens Martin Knudsen - Faroe Islands Alan Rough - Scotland (Although only played one game for Ayr) Henry Smith - Scotland David Stewart - Scotland Yes, I am bored lol If we were sticking in U21 caps, we could add quite a few to that list, including David Castilla. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne's man Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Has to be done. Waniche is bored. Line up the Worst Ayr united team you've ever seen. Every position can be filled with a player you think is the worst you've ever seen at Somerset. I'll start with... John Hillcoat, Tommy Tait, Michael Renwick, James Mckinstry, Jordan Tait, Paul Cairney, Anthony Marenghi, Steven Boyack, Craig Beattie, David Dunn and Graeme Brown. I'm only 28 and I've kinda made the players semi recent. Please add worse :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 If your getting upset over an opposition player being called a fat c**t then I don’t think football is the sport for you. That's not what he said though, clearly. Sometimes folk take things easy too far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 If your getting upset over an opposition player being called a fat c**t then I don’t think football is the sport for you. That's not what he said though, clearly. Sometimes folk take things way too far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Ronnie Yuill has got to be up there, but in fairness there were loads of pure dumplins in the immediate post Barr era. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 30 minutes ago, Roxanne's man said: Has to be done. Waniche is bored. Line up the Worst Ayr united team you've ever seen. Every position can be filled with a player you think is the worst you've ever seen at Somerset. I'll start with... John Hillcoat, Tommy Tait, Michael Renwick, James Mckinstry, Jordan Tait, Paul Cairney, Anthony Marenghi, Steven Boyack, Craig Beattie, David Dunn and Graeme Brown. I'm only 28 and I've kinda made the players semi recent. Please add worse :-) I'd say there's quite a few decent players in that bunch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne's man Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 minute ago, WATTOO said: Ronnie Yuill Impossible to find on Google. Must be a fantastic player. Worst player I've ever seen is John Hillcoat, worst goalkeeper I've ever seen for Ayr by a long shot. Sure, we could sit and criticise Ruddy, Hart or any other young keeper for making small mistakes. Hillcoat though.... He made a c**t of being a c**t. Shit goalie. Shit columnist. Just shit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne's man Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 minute ago, WATTOO said: I'd say there's quite a few decent players in that bunch. Yeah, I'm just taking them from times they were pure shite and me thinking 'he's shit' at the time, sticks with you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC 1910 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Have I missed the 'huge advertising deal'? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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