paulbrucerick Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Tache porn with Rossco and Geordie! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North British Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 My favourite Dunncy George moment was that ferocious tackle on Gaza at .Ibrox . How Gaza got up and played on after that is testimony to what a great player he was as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BukyOHare Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 On 11/12/2020 at 11:47, THEHonestman1910 said: Get well soon to the first team backroom member who has turned positive for COVID. Tom Walsh also in isolation. It'll be the physio then..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam1980 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Hi All, Im a bit remote over here in Ukraine but I run a Podcast with Shoot the Defence, https://audioboom.com/channel/shoot-the-defence We are running a Welcome to Scotland series at the moment where we discuss life at the clubs around the Scottish leagues. It would be great to get Ayr involved. We would love to talk with a few fans about the club and how the relationship with the fans. It would be great to discuss the famous Somerset Park as well. If anyone is interested, give us a shout out here or email ukrfut24@gmail.com 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrunitedfw Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 When should we expect the podcast this week @itzdrk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 3 hours ago, ayrunitedfw said: When should we expect the podcast this week @itzdrk How about right now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Reading this stuff about Championship clubs running out of money is pretty galling. The Record report specifically says that some clubs who have players on high wages are struggling. Maybe try signing cheaper players if you can't afford good ones? Or are the taxpayers supposed to underwrite whatever unrealistic ambitions clubs decide to adopt? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hursty Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 26 minutes ago, Iain said: Reading this stuff about Championship clubs running out of money is pretty galling. The Record report specifically says that some clubs who have players on high wages are struggling. Maybe try signing cheaper players if you can't afford good ones? Or are the taxpayers supposed to underwrite whatever unrealistic ambitions clubs decide to adopt? I'm still not entirely comfortable that we aren't one of them to be honest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 I'm still not entirely comfortable that we aren't one of them to be honest. That's what i thought. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 47 minutes ago, Iain said: Reading this stuff about Championship clubs running out of money is pretty galling. The Record report specifically says that some clubs who have players on high wages are struggling. Maybe try signing cheaper players if you can't afford good ones? Or are the taxpayers supposed to underwrite whatever unrealistic ambitions clubs decide to adopt? A Championship chairman would have made themselves known, would have been asking for fans to step up again and clubs would be pushing half season tickets and strips for Christmas trying to get money in. More likely it is a usual suspect playing politics again. Morton have difficulty just now and it looks to be similar to Barr leaving, There seems to be a lot of politics involved rather than cashflow. I would expect Dundee will be under real pressure but have a decent size fan base and I don't see them going bust this week/year. Inverness were struggling a few months ago and they have some fans back now, their chairman was on Sportsound on Saturday and didn't say anything about an impending crisis. I don't doubt clubs are struggling but I do doubt that any clubs are almost at the point of going to the wall......and if they were, wanted to remain anonymous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 31 minutes ago, diegomarahenry said: A Championship chairman would have made themselves known, would have been asking for fans to step up again and clubs would be pushing half season tickets and strips for Christmas trying to get money in. More likely it is a usual suspect playing politics again. Morton have difficulty just now and it looks to be similar to Barr leaving, There seems to be a lot of politics involved rather than cashflow. I would expect Dundee will be under real pressure but have a decent size fan base and I don't see them going bust this week/year. Inverness were struggling a few months ago and they have some fans back now, their chairman was on Sportsound on Saturday and didn't say anything about an impending crisis. I don't doubt clubs are struggling but I do doubt that any clubs are almost at the point of going to the wall......and if they were, wanted to remain anonymous. The fans Inverness have are season ticket holders so they've paid already. That's a cost rather than income. Morton are definitely at the edge, David Hopkin was paying (some) players wages and meals, he's gone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/scottish-government-warned-critical-championship-23178871 Well this isn't concerning in the slightest.......... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Iain said: Reading this stuff about Championship clubs running out of money is pretty galling. The Record report specifically says that some clubs who have players on high wages are struggling. Maybe try signing cheaper players if you can't afford good ones? Or are the taxpayers supposed to underwrite whatever unrealistic ambitions clubs decide to adopt? Taxpayers are underwriting lots of companies at the minute. Whether its through furlough, rates relief, grants, loans underwritten by the government. Its a global pandemic, football isn't immune to it. As an example, Spurs received a government backed loan of £175m. Your point around clubs not cutting their cloth is a good one. However, any support from the SG will not be a blank cheque. Clubs will need to demonstrate their shortfall in income relative to a normal year and expenditure will be expected to have reduced. I also doubt the government will cover it all in any case and I'd imagine they'll be pretty unsympathetic to any club whose expenditure has increased. All the clubs knew this season was going to be impacted if they have been financially feckless shooting for the stars they should be allowed to fail imo. Edited December 17, 2020 by Trogdor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryMc93 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Worth remembering that when he was on the half time show David Smith said the club had budgeted for fans being back in by now and that recently himself and Tracy had to redo the budget. You actually have to question what advice clubs received from the SPFL, SFA, Joint Response Group and the SFA’s Chief Medical Consultant and if it was suggested that fans would be back by now and if so why they thought that would the case. Clubs won't be full of medical experts so if they've budgeted based on advice from the governing bodies then you can't exactly blame them. However if no guarantees were given and clubs have gambled on predicting when the pandemic would be over themselves then that's on them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 hour ago, GaryMc93 said: Worth remembering that when he was on the half time show David Smith said the club had budgeted for fans being back in by now and that recently himself and Tracy had to redo the budget. You actually have to question what advice clubs received from the SPFL, SFA, Joint Response Group and the SFA’s Chief Medical Consultant and if it was suggested that fans would be back by now and if so why they thought that would the case. Clubs won't be full of medical experts so if they've budgeted based on advice from the governing bodies then you can't exactly blame them. However if no guarantees were given and clubs have gambled on predicting when the pandemic would be over themselves then that's on them. That sounds like madness tbh. I think most of us would have hedged our bets on fans not being back - at least not anything like normal - by now. Even if there was a limited number allowed back by now it wouldn’t have seen a big jump revenue. It would be season ticket holders only and then you’d have extra stewarding costs on top of that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrunitedfw Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I don’t think we are one of the clubs being talked about in article. There is no doubt COVID19 will be having an impact on all clubs including Ayr United however we were chucking about two year deals in the summer so I’d say we are financially sound at the moment. All clubs really should have been budgeting with worst case scenario in mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 11 hours ago, diegomarahenry said: A Championship chairman would have made themselves known, would have been asking for fans to step up again and clubs would be pushing half season tickets and strips for Christmas trying to get money in. More likely it is a usual suspect playing politics again. Morton have difficulty just now and it looks to be similar to Barr leaving, There seems to be a lot of politics involved rather than cashflow. I would expect Dundee will be under real pressure but have a decent size fan base and I don't see them going bust this week/year. Inverness were struggling a few months ago and they have some fans back now, their chairman was on Sportsound on Saturday and didn't say anything about an impending crisis. I don't doubt clubs are struggling but I do doubt that any clubs are almost at the point of going to the wall......and if they were, wanted to remain anonymous. Why? We might be struggling at present but are expecting our insurance payment next month. We're also owned by one of the richest people involved in Scottish football - That doesn't mean we're not struggling financially, but other than reasoning of, 'Because it's Dundee' everything suggests we're in one of the safer financial positions in the Championship right now. (Although definitely not secure) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpInTheAyr Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I don’t think we are one of the clubs being talked about in article. There is no doubt COVID19 will be having an impact on all clubs including Ayr United however we were chucking about two year deals in the summer so I’d say we are financially sound at the moment. All clubs really should have been budgeting with worst case scenario in mind. Paid a fee for Chalmers too. If we're not one of the clubs being talked about now we soon will be 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay21 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, ayrunitedfw said: I don’t think we are one of the clubs being talked about in article. There is no doubt COVID19 will be having an impact on all clubs including Ayr United however we were chucking about two year deals in the summer so I’d say we are financially sound at the moment. All clubs really should have been budgeting with worst case scenario in mind. We have cut budgets accordingly, outwith playing staff we have only around 6 people on the payroll , furlough still being used , we certainly are not one of the clubs who are paying big salaries to get to Premiership as mentioned in the article , we certainly live within our financial capabilities, not a club who waste money unnecessarily Edited December 17, 2020 by Robbo63 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYRSHIRE_ANGUS Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I'm still mystified as to why we continue to play at 3pm in darkness over the Winter months. Thats an obvious cost saving surely if the kick-off is changed to midday or 1pm? Or is there a regulatory requirement to play at 3pm pandemic or no pandemic?- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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