diegomarahenry Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 24 minutes ago, F.T.O.F.1910 said: I have no idea why you feel so passionately about this, it's almost control freak level man. Your work or my work would not realise personal medical information.... I do not understand why you feel, you have the right to know who's in work and who's not and for what reason!? Fist of all, f**k up Second of all, I’m not asking for details of injuries or in Willoughbys case illness. I just want to know why they are no longer playing for the club, why they drop out of the team, never to be seen again. When we have a pointless press conference before every game where the manager (sometimes) appears to tell us everyone is fit and available. Ben Dempsey, Injured, hopefully back within a couple of weeks isn’t information that should be covered by the data protection act. If your work doesn’t tell you if a coworker is off sick or how long they are off for, that is weird. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.T.O.F.1910 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 1 minute ago, diegomarahenry said: Fist of all, f**k up Second of all, I’m not asking for details of injuries or in Willoughbys case illness. I just want to know why they are no longer playing for the club, why they drop out of the team, never to be seen again. When we have a pointless press conference before every game where the manager (sometimes) appears to tell us everyone is fit and available. Ben Dempsey, Injured, hopefully back within a couple of weeks isn’t information that should be covered by the data protection act. If your work doesn’t tell you if a coworker is off sick or how long they are off for, that is weird. If your work are telling you anything of the sort, they are breaking the law. It's a business and if you don't like it then don't part with your cash for the product on offer, the same as we all do, with every other business. Imagine staunin at tesco, quizing them why your favourite checkout lassie isn't in today You have no right to know anything medical about anyone or for whatever reason they may be off work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 5 minutes ago, F.T.O.F.1910 said: If your work are telling you anything of the sort, they are breaking the law. It's a business and if you don't like it then don't part with your cash for the product on offer, the same as we all do, with every other business. Imagine staunin at tesco, quizing them why your favourite checkout lassie isn't in today You have no right to know anything medical about anyone or for whatever reason they may be off work. Fucking hell 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-ish Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 I smell smoke and I'm sure it's coming from a bin. Can only mean one thing..... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.T.O.F.1910 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 3 minutes ago, diegomarahenry said: Fucking hell You seem to be gunning for a fight with anyone on here mucka. I'd normally say difference of opinion is perfectly fine and move on but I'm stating fact, not my opinion. Have you considered, the players may have choicen not to disclose medical conditions with the public, as is their right? And that the reason the club could not realise a statement is because none of the players had granted them permission to disclose medical information!? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 2 minutes ago, F.T.O.F.1910 said: You seem to be gunning for a fight with anyone on here mucka. I'd normally say difference of opinion is perfectly fine and move on but I'm stating fact, not my opinion. Have you considered, the players may have choicen not to disclose medical conditions with the public, as is their right? And that the reason the club could not realise a statement is because none of the players had granted them permission to disclose medical information!? I’ve came on here 3 times in 24 hours, accused of being drunk, someone said I called them out on something when I didn’t and you have gone in, full studs up on 3 posts. I explained why you were wrong about what you think I meant in the first reply and now you are equating asking why Ben Dempsey has been out for a month with sexually harassing supermarket workers. I think the fight here is in your head. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.T.O.F.1910 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 1 minute ago, diegomarahenry said: I’ve came on here 3 times in 24 hours, accused of being drunk, someone said I called them out on something when I didn’t and you have gone in, full studs up on 3 posts. I explained why you were wrong about what you think I meant in the first reply and now you are equating asking why Ben Dempsey has been out for a month with sexually harassing supermarket workers. I think the fight here is in your head. Yikes. Have a good day mate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrunitedfw Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 5 minutes ago, F.T.O.F.1910 said: You seem to be gunning for a fight with anyone on here mucka. I'd normally say difference of opinion is perfectly fine and move on but I'm stating fact, not my opinion. Have you considered, the players may have choicen not to disclose medical conditions with the public, as is their right? And that the reason the club could not realise a statement is because none of the players had granted them permission to disclose medical information!? I get the point your trying to make but football is a bit different. Providing it’s a football related injury it does tend to be normal practice to let the fans know what the injury is or at the very least an estimate return date, although in fairness McCall was always very guilty of undercooking the injuries and getting fans even more frustrated. Given Willoughbys absence seems to be non football related I can completely understand if there was privacy around that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 6 minutes ago, ayrunitedfw said: I get the point your trying to make but football is a bit different. Providing it’s a football related injury it does tend to be normal practice to let the fans know what the injury is or at the very least an estimate return date, although in fairness McCall was always very guilty of undercooking the injuries and getting fans even more frustrated. Given Willoughbys absence seems to be non football related I can completely understand if there was privacy around that. Considering his point is that it is illegal for the club to give injury updates…..in reply to a post about the club giving injury updates. Football isn’t that much different. if you pay for a new window fitted and the company tell you on the day, we can’t come out today due to sickness, you will be given an approximate date of when they will be able to. What you can’t demand is to know if it’s a cold or a doze of the shits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.T.O.F.1910 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 (edited) 17 minutes ago, ayrunitedfw said: I get the point your trying to make but football is a bit different. Providing it’s a football related injury it does tend to be normal practice to let the fans know what the injury is or at the very least an estimate return date, although in fairness McCall was always very guilty of undercooking the injuries and getting fans even more frustrated. Given Willoughbys absence seems to be non football related I can completely understand if there was privacy around that. I fully understand the football related side to this point, for years we've been given information on such things and now that's not as ready available, people are frustrated. None of that changes a players right to whether or not they publicly disclose medical information and if the club had done so, without permission, I've no doubt they would find themselves in court. Just because it's football, doesn't make it above the law and tbh, people should be afforded the decency and privacy to recoup and recovery, as any one of us would expect, in our various forms of employment/life situations. Edited April 1 by F.T.O.F.1910 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.T.O.F.1910 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 (edited) 4 minutes ago, diegomarahenry said: Considering his point is that it is illegal for the club to give injury updates…..in reply to a post about the club giving injury updates. Football isn’t that much different. if you pay for a new window fitted and the company tell you on the day, we can’t come out today due to sickness, you will be given an approximate date of when they will be able to. What you can’t demand is to know if it’s a cold or a doze of the shits. Again, it would be your consumer choice, if you felt let down, to take your business elsewhere. However, you would props have signed a contract with said company so would need to make sure that your cancellation of that product was within your right to cancellation.... Have you signed such a contract with AUFC!? Nope, so they don't need to tell you a thing. Edited April 1 by F.T.O.F.1910 -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-ish Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Ultimately it makes absolutely zero difference to me whether I know if a player is out or not in advance. They'll either be in the squad or not. Will it stop me going if I know a certain player won't be playing. No. At the same time do I think going public on a football related injury would make a bit of difference to how other teams play against us? No chance. I miss the good old days of moaning about Bullen. Life was simpler then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 9 minutes ago, F.T.O.F.1910 said: Again, it would be your consumer choice, if you felt let down, to take your business elsewhere. However, you would props have signed a contract with said company so would need to make sure that your cancellation of that product was within your right to cancellation.... Have you signed such a contract with AUFC!? Nope, so they don't need to tell you a thing. Don’t quote post me again. you’ve gone through the whole spectrum of rage on here today, mad accusations, making stuff up and the sure sign of someone who has lost the plot, the - don’t pay and watch the team then. moon howling stuff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUcal Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 We all finally got the squad update we were after and this place is still a mess. #weareunited 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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D'Jaffo Posted April 1 Author Share Posted April 1 Did the club tell us why we’ve switched ends though? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Feel like we are in a good place with Brown, he's done a decent job with a pretty hefty injury list. I was looking at points gained Vs Bullen coming in. I think the circumstances are not too dissimilar, this squad is a little better than what Bullen was working with but the injury crisis probably evens it out enough. First 9 games - Bullen 11 | Brown 15 Game 15 - Bullen 15 | Brown TBC but at least 15 Bullen then has an extra game Brown won't get and got to 18 points. I'd be surprised if that 18 point haul isn't surpassed. It was seen as very good and the club were shouting about ending on mid table form that off-season. Currently we are top of the form table over 10 games (1 of those belongs to Davie White) and third over 5 games. Again, this has all been with at least 4 starting first team players injured in almost every game. I'm looking forward to seeing what kind of squad he puts together next season. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.T.O.F.1910 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 10 minutes ago, diegomarahenry said: Don’t quote post me again. you’ve gone through the whole spectrum of rage on here today, mad accusations, making stuff up and the sure sign of someone who has lost the plot, the - don’t pay and watch the team then. moon howling stuff I'm only stating facts, facts you cannot seem to grasp then you throw the dummies out the pram and start swearing and ranting at people mate. You need to take a long hard look at yourself. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 12 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said: Did the club tell us why we’ve switched ends though? They can't legally disclose that information AFAIK. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 I’m really not sure a footballer getting injured, is the same as someone being off sick from their work. They would still actually be in work as they would be doing rehab anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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