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Are the tweets doing the "Congratulations MONKEY IN RED ROSETTE - selected as candidate for toilet town in England!" thing normal? It doesn't seem normal, or a thing I remember happening before. Like some sort of X Factor competition is picking who people will be able to vote to represent them.

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Even the most ardent Starmer supporters, if that’s a thing, must see that right wing Tories being welcomed into the party, while left wing Labour members are being expelled or deselected is a worrying trend? 

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4 minutes ago, CambieBud said:

Even the most ardent Starmer supporters, if that’s a thing, must see that right wing Tories being welcomed into the party, while left wing Labour members are being expelled or deselected is a worrying trend? 

Serious point: just let her stand. Then Starmer can say that Labour really is a broad church.

Just let the woman stand. 

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6 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

Serious point: just let her stand. Then Starmer can say that Labour really is a broad church.

Just let the woman stand. 

He won't. He is hell bent on out Torying the Tories.

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4 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

Serious point: just let her stand. Then Starmer can say that Labour really is a broad church.

Just let the woman stand. 

Of course it’s a broad church, but the church has undergone significant renovation in the last few years and the left side has been effectively closed but to compensate the capacity on right side has been significantly increased, so nothing’s changed.  Not really.

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Labour can away and GTF, but I still can't bring myself to hope that they f**k up this election. The idea of another five years of the Tories makes me feel physically ill, and all Labour would learn from this defeat would be that they need to convince the public that they're more right-wing than the Conservatives. I'm by no means expecting them to be anything other than cosmetically better, but I can't abide the idea of voracious soul reapers like Braverman and Duncan Smith being further rewarded for the harm they've caused.

Not sure what would need to happen for them to Kinnock this, though. Hidden camera footage of Starmer scheming to feed underprivileged children?

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Obviously it's not happening, Starmer could be filmed killing a Palestinian child with his bare hands rather than just continuing to actively support their mass murder and Labour would still win a comfortable majority at this election, but if you were picking a way for them to blow this then it wouldn't be the full Kinnock with the Tories still winning as that would also be nightmarish, it'd be contriving to fall short of a majority despite the state of the Tories.

Two of the panel of three who made the decision to bar Shaheen from standing have been parachuted into safe seats in the last 24 hours. You have an NEC and NCC who are finding spurious grounds to block candidates they have factional disagreements with then are selecting themselves as replacements. It's a blatantly corrupt process in a blatantly corrupt party.

If they're willing to publicly behave in this brazenly racist and corrupt way in opposition, think how corrupt and racist they'll be in government with real power.

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1 hour ago, Dunning1874 said:

Obviously it's not happening, Starmer could be filmed killing a Palestinian child with his bare hands rather than just continuing to actively support their mass murder and Labour would still win a comfortable majority at this election, but if you were picking a way for them to blow this then it wouldn't be the full Kinnock with the Tories still winning as that would also be nightmarish, it'd be contriving to fall short of a majority despite the state of the Tories.

Two of the panel of three who made the decision to bar Shaheen from standing have been parachuted into safe seats in the last 24 hours. You have an NEC and NCC who are finding spurious grounds to block candidates they have factional disagreements with then are selecting themselves as replacements. It's a blatantly corrupt process in a blatantly corrupt party.

If they're willing to publicly behave in this brazenly racist and corrupt way in opposition, think how corrupt and racist they'll be in government with real power.

Aye, the whole premise of Starmer's Labour is the execution of the public's preferred Tory policies competently and without the melodrama.

There is very little to suggest they will act as a progressive government. Even now, facing a near wipeout of all parliamentary opposition there is no sign of any underlying stealth progressive policies. It may be time for folk to realise that Starmer really isnt going to turn into Nye Bevan.

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2 hours ago, renton said:

Aye, the whole premise of Starmer's Labour is the execution of the public's preferred Tory policies competently and without the melodrama.

There is very little to suggest they will act as a progressive government. Even now, facing a near wipeout of all parliamentary opposition there is no sign of any underlying stealth progressive policies. It may be time for folk to realise that Starmer really isnt going to turn into Nye Bevan.

I’d settle for Bev Bevan.  :(

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14 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

Of course it’s a broad church, but the church has undergone significant renovation in the last few years and the left side has been effectively closed but to compensate the capacity on right side has been significantly increased, so nothing’s changed.  Not really.

It shouldn’t be imo 

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