DrewDon Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said: The whole thread is worth a read on how UK Labour view Scotland but that tweet encapsulates it. Jackie Baillie is the key to their Scottish comeback. They probably look at Ian Murray's success in Morningside and think that can be replicated across the country. I mean, I get that there is no obvious solution to their ongoing implosion, but I struggle to see how anybody remotely attuned to Scottish politics since 2014 could conclude that Scottish Labour's route back to relevance lies in essentially trying to out-Unionist the Tories and getting Stephen Daisley to say nice things about them in his Daily Mail column. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 The internal report on the last election has basically said that the route back for Labour is by picking up disaffected voters who allegedly left Labour for the Tories. Apparently the main factor in that is Corbyn's personal unpopularity which the party believes means people that voted for Boris Johnson's Conservative Party will back the same policies under a different leader. Good luck to them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 I honestly hope they do draft in Ian Murray. His smug puss is long overdue a public humilation the same way Jim Murphy did when he thought he'd be cock of the walk in Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksburnDandy Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 The whole thread is worth a read on how UK Labour view Scotland but that tweet encapsulates it. Jackie Baillie is the key to their Scottish comeback.It is incredible just how tone deaf Labour are these days. There is absolutely no way back while they continue to try to out staunch the Tories. They have lost too much of their voter base to the SNP and rather than try to win them back by being more sensitive to the constitutional question, they continue to lose these voters by their intransigence.I'd probably class myself as a natural Labour voter in terms of the party's general left wing stances under Corbyn but their tone deafness on the constitution means I won't vote for them.The one size fits all approach might have worked back in the 90s when Scotland was still quite an obedient, meekly Unionist electorate. Not now, those days have gone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Labour are completely deluded if they think Murray's persistence is a result of anything other than standing in a seat with an eclectic, almost uniquely diverse electorate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 The whole thread is worth a read on how UK Labour view Scotland but that tweet encapsulates it. Jackie Baillie is the key to their Scottish comeback.Jabba the key? God help them!! Paul Sweeney didn't agree either. [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Rebecca Long-Bailey sacked as Shadow Education Secretary. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Wilkos Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 The cull has began. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 What is it she posted that was offensive? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said: What is it she posted that was offensive? Retweeted this article. It is an established fact that the Minneapolis police department receives training by Israeli forces. While Peake may be factually incorrect about them training that technique, the notion that this constitutes 'an antisemitic conspiracy theory' which can somehow be construed as evoking blood libel or blaming Israel for racism in the US is insane nonsense which no one approaching this in good faith will agree with. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDuffman Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I wouldn't believe a word from the Israeli police. There's photos of them doing it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) Move along please, nothing happening here. Minn. police learn from Israeli counter-terrorism conference https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/the-knee-on-neck-long-a-staple-of-israel-s-occupation-of-palestine-36787 Edited June 25, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Fair play to Starmer, first inkling of an opportunity and RLB is rinsed. Corbynites will be shoogling on their pegs at that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Cretinous leadership from Sir Keir. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 You can tell that Starmer is a slimy b*****d and was looking for an opportunity to dispatch her. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Well done Starmer. Showing true Blairite leadership. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 59 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said: Retweeted this article. It is an established fact that the Minneapolis police department receives training by Israeli forces. While Peake may be factually incorrect about them training that technique, the notion that this constitutes 'an antisemitic conspiracy theory' which can somehow be construed as evoking blood libel or blaming Israel for racism in the US is insane nonsense which no one approaching this in good faith will agree with. Thanks. Seems a very harsh sacking from a leader who was desperate to make himself look a tough guy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, ThatBoyRonaldo said: https://mobile.twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1276167864328880131?s=12 Everything about the Starmer leadership just gives me intrusive thoughts about all the awful Blairite Labour Students types I knew at university. I've said it before and I'll say it again - these people seem to act as though the last decade in politics simply hasn't happened. The type of people who's main motivation in politics is to fulfill their craving to bully people in the most cowardly way possible. Starmer is showing exactly who he is. The main goal now for the Blairites is to ensure that the left can't gain power again. If that sees them down at 9 million votes at the next election they will still have directorships to fall into. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Detournement said: The type of people who's main motivation in politics is to fulfill their craving to bully people in the most cowardly way possible. Starmer is showing exactly who he is. The main goal now for the Blairites is to ensure that the left can't gain power again. If that sees them down at 9 million votes at the next election they will still have directorships to fall into. I'm willing to bet actual money that Labour don't finish down on the historic low Corbyn took them to at the next election. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Orton Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Just now, NewBornBairn said: I'm willing to bet actual money that Labour don't finish down on the historic low Corbyn took them to at the next election. Correct, the move back to Blairite light policies will see them comfortably increase their appeal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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