DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, orfc said: Corbyn's not allowed in is he? I thought he had the whip removed? Never a fan of Corbyn but his treatment by the Labour Party has been nothing short of disgraceful. The use of Israel/Palestine (and I say this as someone who is not particularly enamoured to either side) by certain individuals is just poltical opportunism of the worst kind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, orfc said: Corbyn's not allowed in is he? I thought he had the whip removed? He'll be trying to sneak in wearing a succession of hilarious disguises and getting rumbled by the bouncer, eventually succeeding, he'll get in when everyone has left. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Never a fan of Corbyn but his treatment by the Labour Party has been nothing short of disgraceful. The use of Israel/Palestine (and I say this as someone who is not particularly enamoured to either side) by certain individuals is just poltical opportunism of the worst kind. And just watch the tory right wing turn Corbyns Palestinian support and the Palestinian group outside the Labour Party conference today subtly spun to associate the Labour party as a whole in supporting Palestine and terrorism. This has been political manna from heaven for the tory right wing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/09/i-will-never-leave-labour-but-my-new-membership-card-makes-me-uneasy It was from the general secretary of the Labour party, which I am never leaving, informing me of changes to my membership card. I now have to carry something with a union flag on it that says “putting country first” on the flip side. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Ziggy Sobotka said: In terms of likeability Lammy is Labour’s answer to Braverman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 25 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: In terms of likeability Lammy is Labour’s answer to Braverman. Braverman is a confirmed nutjob tbf, Lammy is just a shameless opportunistic cretin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 34 minutes ago, Ziggy Sobotka said: Braverman is a confirmed nutjob tbf, Lammy is just a shameless opportunistic cretin. Give him time… -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ziggy Sobotka said: Braverman is a confirmed nutjob tbf, Lammy is just a shameless opportunistic cretin. In the same way Dr Evil is a shameless opportunistic cretin Edited October 10, 2023 by MarkoRaj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane of Cawdor Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 22 hours ago, Granny Danger said: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/09/i-will-never-leave-labour-but-my-new-membership-card-makes-me-uneasy It was from the general secretary of the Labour party, which I am never leaving, informing me of changes to my membership card. I now have to carry something with a union flag on it that says “putting country first” on the flip side. Bit derivative, I think. I suppose most here are familiar with the quote from arch-Tory GK Chesterton: " 'My country, right or wrong', is a thing no patriot would think of saying. It is like saying 'My mother, drunk or sober.' " 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 I beg your pardon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Imagine going to all that fuss to access the stage, throw the glitter, you then get your chance to speak into the microphone for millions of people to see and hear, and the best you can come up with is a demand for a fucking "People's House". He deserves to do at least twenty years for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Thought it was Saville he was associated with, not glitter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 9 hours ago, Ziggy Sobotka said: Absolutely fucking nuts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, DrewDon said: Imagine going to all that fuss to access the stage, throw the glitter, you then get your chance to speak into the microphone for millions of people to see and hear, and the best you can come up with is a demand for a fucking "People's House". He deserves to do at least twenty years for that. Pull off by two women. Any actual protestor would be getting huckled and thrown around by security. The fact it even looked like an Ed milliband impersonator makes it feel even more staged. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) A PM in waiting. A magnificent speech! Being sarcastic by the way! Edited October 10, 2023 by Highlandmagar -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 I wonder to what extent the calculation from the Scottish electorate, which we know to be sophisticated, is that Starmer is going to win a stomping majority based on English and Welsh seats anyway and given that, it’s better to elect Scottish Labour MPs who will be inside the tent pissing out, the SNP MPs who won’t have the power to do anything. That wouldn’t be the case if it was the Tories who were leading the polls as they are seen to be out of touch with Scotland, but that’s maybe not the case with Labour 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarHibee Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 19 minutes ago, Donathan said: I wonder to what extent the calculation from the Scottish electorate, which we know to be sophisticated, is that Starmer is going to win a stomping majority based on English and Welsh seats anyway and given that, it’s better to elect Scottish Labour MPs who will be inside the tent pissing out, the SNP MPs who won’t have the power to do anything. That wouldn’t be the case if it was the Tories who were leading the polls as they are seen to be out of touch with Scotland, but that’s maybe not the case with Labour You think there's actually a possibility that Keir Starmer's Labour Party isn't out of touch with Scotland? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 25 minutes ago, StellarHibee said: You think there's actually a possibility that Keir Starmer's Labour Party isn't out of touch with Scotland? I think there’s a very solid argument that a Scottish Labour MP who has a direct line into the cabinet can be more influential than an SNP MP when there’s a whomping majority government. There’s probably around 70% of the Scottish electorate that would never want to vote Conservative and that’s why their popular voting numbers have topped out in the mid to high 20’s under the relative popularity of Ruth Davidson and Douglas Ross compared to former leaders like Annabel Goldie, Jackson Carlaw and David McLetchie. But for Labour, their brand is far less toxic and I think an awful lot of voters would be willing to back them in the right circumstances. These could be those circumstances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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