ICTJohnboy Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 31 minutes ago, Loondave1 said: 47 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Up to a point. Somehow I detect the whiff of conspiracy in this case. I met Salmond a few years ago. He held a door open open for me and generally behaved like a perfect gentleman. Probably just used the opportunity to get a fly look at your arse or something. Actually he could have got an eyeful of more than that. I was having a pee at Embra Airport and didn't realise who the guy who had been stood next to me was, until he held the door open for me. I tend not to look at fellow peers in these circumstances, preferring to concentrate on the matter in hand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Will she lose her job if Salmond is not guilty? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, HeartsOfficialMoaner said: Will she lose her job if Salmond is not guilty? Why? She's never said he is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) On 1/12/2019 at 11:51, ICTChris said: I read an article a few years ago by Nassim Taleb and a co-author about fragility in political systems. The article argued that countries that may seem politically chaotic, like Lebanon (post Civil war) or Italy, are actually better placed to withstand disorder whereas stable countries, like Syria who had the same system of government and rulers for decades, are more vulnerable as they don’t have any ‘give’ they are stable but rigid and brittle, a little pressure and they shatter. Could the same be said for political parties? I don’t think there’s been a more disciplined political party than the SNP since 2007 in modern British politics. I’m pretty certain that the only MSPs who ever opposed party policy in that time were the 2 or 3 who opposed the changes on membership of NATO and they were deselected. Did any of the 56 MPs between 2015-2017 ever dissent in any way? Maybe this rigidity has caused the SNP to become brittle and a vicious personal fight could be the worst case scenario. "... stable but rigid and brittle...". A dictatorship. Call it by the right name. Place has been a bloodbath all the way from the current Assad's father, through to now. Edited January 13, 2019 by beefybake 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 If Sturgeon is to be replaced anytime soon (I hope not), then the only candidate for me would be to tempt Angus Robertson back into the fold. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Now that independence is no more because someone liked a tweet (), what next for Scotland? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanburn Dave Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Of course not, but he hasn't been convicted of anything yet.He's from Linlithgow, mark my words he's guilty of something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Deanburn Dave said: He's from Linlithgow, mark my words he's guilty of something. And a jambo of course. Probably not a good combination. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Sturgeon's streets ahead of any contenders at the moment. It would be ridiculous if SNP infighting forced her resignation over alleged fatty fumbles, and don't think there's a chance of it happening. It's being stirred up by the unionist press and a few SNPers who have wanted another indyref every week since the last time, whether or not there's a realistic chance of winning. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 The only thing guaranteed in British politics this year is that Sturgeon will still be First Minister at the end of the year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I can’t think of a single figure who would, or could, attempt to replace Sturgeon that wouldn’t be an utter disaster. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Sturgeon's streets ahead of any contenders at the moment. It would be ridiculous if SNP infighting forced her resignation over alleged fatty fumbles, and don't think there's a chance of it happening. It's being stirred up by the unionist press and a few SNPers who have wanted another indyref every week since the last time, whether or not there's a realistic chance of winning.I agree, I've thought from Day One that there are parallels with the anti-Semitism smears on the Labour party. It is incredibly easy to take some basic facts and then embroider them to suit an agenda.As evidence I would cite the recent apocalyptic headlines about civil war and rampant factionalism within the SNP - these are a lot easier to print than to prove and justify. No matter, the story is off and running.And you know what ? Outwith anoraks like us, who the flying f**k really cares about the minutae of esoteric points of ministerial and civil service conduct ? Two women have made a complaint about the alleged conduct of Alex Salmond; fine, let the investigation be vigorous and thorough, but don't try and portray a complaint as a contagion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrExile Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 hours ago, NotThePars said: I can’t think of a single figure who would, or could, attempt to replace Sturgeon that wouldn’t be an utter disaster. Derek MacKay top boi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainspotter Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: Oh bloody hell no, his intonation is like a bored church minister reading the same bit of the bible for the 750th time ...and an ego nearly as big as Salmond’s 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Really?Maybe disaster is a bit strong but I can’t think of a pre-indy replacement that wouldn’t drag the party down. Do you have anyone in mind? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 hours ago, AyrExile said: Derek MacKay top boi 2 hours ago, MixuFixit said: Oh bloody hell no, his intonation is like a bored church minister reading the same bit of the bible for the 750th time If I got stuck in a lift with Derek McKay only one of us would emerge alive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 21 hours ago, welshbairn said: Sturgeon's streets ahead of any contenders at the moment. It would be ridiculous if SNP infighting forced her resignation over alleged fatty fumbles, and don't think there's a chance of it happening. It's being stirred up by the unionist press and a few SNPers who have wanted another indyref every week since the last time, whether or not there's a realistic chance of winning. Is that who it is? I tend to avoid the Wings/Mr. Malky cybernat Twitterati loonballs, so don't know what their position is, other than that anyone in the SNP who doesn't kowtow to Wings is a Unionist shill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: Is that who it is? I tend to avoid the Wings/Mr. Malky cybernat Twitterati loonballs, so don't know what their position is, other than that anyone in the SNP who doesn't kowtow to Wings is a Unionist shill. I'm beginning to think it's Salmond himself, putting his personal issues above the party, although he most likely thinks he is the party. Here's a statement from his spokesman, snidely attacking Sturgeon while pretending he isn't. Edited January 14, 2019 by welshbairn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Given the strong possibility that a GE could be called for sometime during the next few days this spat within the SNP could not have come along at a worse possible time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Given the strong possibility that a GE could be called for sometime during the next few days this spat within the SNP could not have come along at a worse possible time.At the risk of making a parochial comparison, Salmond is beginning to act like Stevie Aitken; his time was up and everyone else has moved on save for himself.And like Aitken, he is rapidly burning through what goodwill and respect remained. I honestly doubt whether this stuff will affect the SNP vote by any more than a few hundred. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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