DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 What's worth remembering about Salmond is that Police Scotland interviewed 500 people and didn't get a single accusation that came from outwith the civil service WhatsApp chat members. That is despite the comically low bar set for charges to be brought including touching hair. And there was also the Met investigation. That suggests to me that he wasn't indulging in creep behaviour constantly throughout the years. Of the charges that were brought one of the two serious charges was dismantled in court with a witness who was a close friend of the accusser saying she wasn't even present that evening, the other witness saying he couldn't remember and the Bute House records showing she wasn't signed in. She also tried to drag Tasmina Asmin Sheik into it despite her father having died that day. This incident looks very much like a set up and that's why the day the defence addressed it was skipped over in the BBC documentary. The Not Proven charge seems like the only that was at all possibly worthy of a criminal complaint but it was dealt with within the civil service not long after it happened and the details that raised it to potential criminality weren't mentioned at all in the civil service investigation. That doesn't mean it didn't happen but it does make almost impossible to prosecute without more corroborating evidence..... You do realise that the threshold for an investigation of sexual misconduct in any organisation (public or private sector) is lower than the criminal bar? Are you saying that any accusations should have been ignored? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Did Salmond and his lawyer not both admit there was inappropriate behaviour ? So according to his very own legal team he's OFTW. Rolling about a bed with a bird who's not your wife is definitely inappropriate. However even if you have a spotless record who would cut off a mate or grass him in for cheating? It's nothing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said: Called out for what? My belief that despite his legal innocence Alex Salmond has behaved appallingly? I'll just go for his own lawyer calling him a sex pest and a bully on this occasion for the purposes of brevity. My assertion that you are just doing this because it's Alex Salmond? That's pretty much undoubtable. And that chronic patter has so far attracted 2 greenies my friend, and they all count My belief this.....my assertion that....sorry but what a whole lotta pish. Just be honest. It's because he supports Hearts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Detournement said: Rolling about a bed with a bird who's not your wife is definitely inappropriate. However even if you have a spotless record who would cut off a mate or grass him in for cheating? It's nothing. Depends if the bird was willing or not. Apparently not, she got a full apology in the morning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 minute ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: You do realise that the threshold for an investigation of sexual misconduct in any organisation (public or private sector) is lower than the criminal bar? Are you saying that any accusations should have been ignored? No I'm saying there was a single credible allegation. However the fact that the accusser had made a conflicting statement in the past and the complete lack of other witnesses to back her new version of events and it is impossible to prosecute. Handily five other nonsense charges and one completely fake allegation were made to the police right after the civil case verdict which allowed the potentially credible but impossible to prosecute charge to come to court. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 It's about time someone called out the Pro-Hibernia element in the SNP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 minute ago, MixuFruit said: Who is the ranking SNP Hibee anyway? Derek McKay (Probably) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH75 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: Who is the ranking SNP Hibee anyway? Blackford is a Hibee I think? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: Who is the ranking SNP Hibee anyway? Blackford. 5 minutes ago, NotThePars said: It's about time someone called out the Pro-Hibernia element in the SNP Here we go again. 4 minutes ago, strichener said: Derek McKay (Probably) Unsure if joking or not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 26 minutes ago, Detournement said: However even if you have a spotless record who would cut off a mate or grass him in for cheating? It's nothing. I fail to see what this has to do with the established pattern of inappropriate, but not criminal behaviour displayed by Salmond. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Given that we're talking about hibs and the SNP together, I'm just going to post this again, because why the f**k not ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: I fail to see what this has to do with the established pattern of inappropriate, but not criminal behaviour displayed by Salmond. There isn't any established pattern of behaviour. There is the one incident the details of which are contested. Again over 500 people were interviewed and nothing else credible was discovered by a very keen Police Scotland. The fact that intelligent people don't seem to understand this is sad. It's Corbyn anti semitism or Assange in Sweden level media manipulation. Edited November 9, 2020 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Detournement said: There isn't any established pattern of behaviour. There is the one incident the details of which are contested. Again over 500 people were interviewed and nothing else credible was discovered by a very keen Police Scotland. The fact that intelligent people don't seem to understand this is sad. It's Corbyn anti semitism or Assange in Sweden level media manipulation. His own lawyer said his behaviour was inappropriate, 'pats on the bottom' were just 'playful' and things happened previously that 'were now considered criminal'. He was obviously cleared of being a rapey sleaze, but is clearly a handsy sleaze. And quite bizarre to compare it with the antisemitism issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Detournement said: There isn't any established pattern of behaviour. There is the one incident the details of which are contested. Again over 500 people were interviewed and nothing else credible was discovered by a very keen Police Scotland. The fact that intelligent people don't seem to understand this is sad. It's Corbyn anti semitism or Assange in Sweden level media manipulation. Who do you think saw Salmond as an immediate or sufficient danger in 2018 to need a conspiracy to quash him? Edited November 9, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: His own lawyer said his behaviour was inappropriate, 'pats on the bottom' were just 'playful' and things happened previously that 'were now considered criminal'. He was obviously cleared of being a rapey sleaze, but is clearly a handsy sleaze. And quite bizarre to compare it with the antisemitism issue. The First Minister attempting to cheat on his wife in Bute House is what was being described as inappropriate. The pat on the bum comment was about the act in general rather than admitting Salmond did it. Salmond's legal team didn't admit to any non consensual behaviour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kejan Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Ben MacPherson is a Hibee too, I think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: I assume the squiggle is Bawatchin's new alias? I think that's AyeVR. Could be completely wrong (most likely scenario tbqhwy). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Detournement said: The First Minister attempting to cheat on his wife in Bute House is what was being described as inappropriate. Why do you think he made an official apology to the woman concerned? This isn't lads being lads. And the charge of attempted rape was found not proven, not not guilty. Edited November 9, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: Who do you think saw Salmond as an immediate or sufficient danger in 2018 to need a conspiracy to quash him? Peter Murrell and Sturgeon by the looks of it. And the UK establishment obviously don't like him and want to hurt the Indy campaign. The fact that you watched the state broadcaster make a documentary where they ommited the key evidence that led to a not guilty verdict on the charge of attempted rape and you still think it's above board is astounding. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 36 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Blackford. Here we go again. Unsure if joking or not. I was. Remember at the time of the invasion, there was some Rangers fan for in touch with him over his refusal to condemn Hibs fans behaviour. Here is a link to Ranjursmedia, if you are brave enough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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