Robert James Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 9 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: To such an extent that Ian Maxwell and Rod Petrie had to have its existence explained to them when they met with EoS and LL clubs late last season. I think they both got the message. Also the power lies with the clubs and leagues concerned, including the SPFL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 8 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said: There was a point raised I hadn't quite considered till now. The Angus SPFL clubs might actually be happy in the Highland League now as the Lowland League has continued to strengthen over the years. You'd certainly consider them challengers to the Highland League title which wouldn't be the case necessarily in the Lowland. "......wouldn't be the case necessarily in the Lowland" - especially when the leading West Juniors join the Lowland part of the pyramid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 19 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said: There was a point raised I hadn't quite considered till now. The Angus SPFL clubs might actually be happy in the Highland League now as the Lowland League has continued to strengthen over the years. You'd certainly consider them challengers to the Highland League title which wouldn't be the case necessarily in the Lowland. I didn't think of that either, but good point. A team like Brechin would much rather fall into the HL should they get relegated. Plus, the likes of Albion Rovers won't want to make going back up even harder than it already is by ending up in a division with potentially Brechin & Lochee United added on top of what's already there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 16 hours ago, Robert James said: I think they both got the message... The confusion over the boundary is one of the matters that they say will have to be resolved in the PWG meetings this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz5 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 The confusion over the boundary is one of the matters that they say will have to be resolved in the PWG meetings this season.There's no confusion though, among the level of the game who it impacts at least.That RP and IM didn't know it existed only speaks to the overall back of a fag packet "plan" to shoehorn in the juniors as a block, which ultimately failed like everyone who understood the ins and outs, including those on the SJFA side, knew it would. That doesn't make the current boundary any less clear.There's a line, the line is clear, it always has been. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, gaz5 said: ...which ultimately failed like everyone who understood the ins and outs, including those on the SJFA side, knew it would... Definitely looks like the SJFA blazers were happy to push a plan they knew would fail. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 6 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: The confusion over the boundary is one of the matters that they say will have to be resolved in the PWG meetings this season. It's not a matter for the PWG. If the boundary line and any amendment to it is concerned, then it would probably be upto the Profressional Game Board to decide, ie where the SPFL, HL and LL sit. I doubt it's going to be amended though, or even discussed. As others have said, the Angus clubs (who are the only ones in the SPFL who would be affected by a shift) probably would take a look at East Stirlingshire and probably Berwick this season, and decide to leave the LL area well alone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 6 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: The confusion over the boundary is one of the matters that they say will have to be resolved in the PWG meetings this season. Yes, the SFA signalled the boundary as one of the key issues to be resolved. Other questions for the PWG to review include :- * will the West juniors join 'en bloc', or will there be a Kelty type split, similar to the East Region ? * will the ERJFA continue with its regional north/south structure, in the knowledge that the SFA has stated it needs to have only one SuperLeague ? * will there be some sort of merger agreed between the junior clubs south of the Tay, and the East of Scotland League ? * will Lochee United, and any other north of Tay clubs, follow Montrose Roselea into the Highland catchment area, and if they did, would it encourage the stronger north junior clubs, to 'reconsider' the pyramid ? * will the PWG support the North Caledonian League's wish to become a pyramid feeder league (for clubs in the highlands and islands), and if so, would the Highland League accept the NCL, in circumstances where the NRJFA maintains its stance of not joining the pyramid ? Also, are any further changes envisaged in Club licensing rules in the foreseeable future, which could have an impact for senior and junior clubs ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Burnie_man said: It's not a matter for the PWG. If the boundary line and any amendment to it is concerned, then it would probably be upto the Profressional Game Board to decide, ie where the SPFL, HL and LL sit. I doubt it's going to be amended though, or even discussed. As others have said, the Angus clubs (who are the only ones in the SPFL who would be affected by a shift) probably would take a look at East Stirlingshire and probably Berwick this season, and decide to leave the LL area well alone. I share your views about the boundary. I can't see either Berwick or East Stirling being strong contenders for the 2019/20 Lowland League title. Can you ? Edited July 12, 2019 by Robert James additional question added 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRICEY Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Does England have a fixed line to separate North and south?. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 No, and it almost led to Braintree Town winding up in Conference North this season. Why's that a problem, you might ask? Braintree is in Essex. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz5 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Does England have a fixed line to separate North and south?. Who cares, we're not England (or any other country for that matter).The line in Scotland is as far South as it reasonably can be based on population/club demographic. To have a floating line for "balance" would be more likely to see it move further South and suck more clubs North than it ever would to move North.If we look at the ERSJFA as an example, the only league that spanned the boundary, they have split themselves into North and South Regions, from an all in regional setup, and we've had Montrose move North.Seems the teams with experience of having teams either side of it have themselves decided the line is just about right.Bottom line though is that the demarcation is there, is clear (and always has been) and clubs need to play in the structure on whatever side of it they fall, or don't join the pyramid.As has been pointed out more than a few times, the travel doesn't appear significantly different for the clubs on the boundary. There are a few outliers North and South in both setups as you climb up the levels but outside of those travel would be broadly similar. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 Do the Tayside clubs still play in a regional cup with their NRJFA colleagues? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, Burnie_man said: Do the Tayside clubs still play in a regional cup with their NRJFA colleagues? Yes, the draw's been made for the 19-20 Cup: https://scottishfootballfixtures.wordpress.com/east-juniors-19-20/inter-regional-cup-19-20/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, GordonS said: Yes, the draw's been made for the 19-20 Cup: https://scottishfootballfixtures.wordpress.com/east-juniors-19-20/inter-regional-cup-19-20/ Yet they want nothing to do with the NRJFA when it comes to a potential link-up at tier 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 On 10/07/2019 at 23:22, Spyro said: And the chairman/owner saying before the game that they didn’t even want to be promoted You claimed that there were 'all sorts of shenanigans' surrounding the match and that Brora 'threw' it. Their owner saying 'we're not particularly bothered about promotion' is not even close to that. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that what you claimed actually happened in the match; you're simply regurgitating the same old nonsense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 If anything the line should be moved further south to balance out the number of teams / population but thats another problem. No way should it be moved any further north 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyro Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, virginton said: You claimed that there were 'all sorts of shenanigans' surrounding the match and that Brora 'threw' it. Their owner saying 'we're not particularly bothered about promotion' is not even close to that. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that what you claimed actually happened in the match; you're simply regurgitating the same old nonsense. The newspaper interviews from John Young are still there for all to see. Claiming they’d try there best, but allowing half the team to go on holiday. Also other things that were mentioned to some of the squad that I won’t go into here which I heard directly as I worked up that way and spoke to people around the club regularly at the time. There was no chance Brora were going to win that playoff, it suited everyone to lose it. You can believe what you want though, I try not to comment on the HL too much as I know it seems to upset folk but they say the right things at the right time to show they are open minded and forward thinking whilst holding all the cards and playing their own game Edited July 12, 2019 by Spyro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 3 hours ago, GordonS said: Yes, the draw's been made for the 19-20 Cup: https://scottishfootballfixtures.wordpress.com/east-juniors-19-20/inter-regional-cup-19-20/ Has anyone checked to see how many times an North Region junior club has won this Cup, and how many times the East Region clubs (north & south of the Tay), have won it ? It would be an interesting comparison of the respective strengths of the two regions (or three, if the East's 'north' & 'south' clubs are sub divided) over XX years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Changes to the SFA's Articles of Assocation as agreed at their AGM on 12 June have now been lodged at Companies House. As previously indicated, some of the changes affect the voting rights for new full members in tier 6 and below, and as such those members will now be defined as "associate members" Rather than read the full A0A document (74 pages), just refer to the "Resolution of Alteration to Articles of Association" (3 pages) https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/SC005453/filing-history If my reading of the changes is correct, then Bonnyrigg is now a "Full Member", but Penicuick, Broxburn, Hill of Beath and the other newly licensed clubs are now designated as "associate members". Linlithgow would appear to retain its voting rights, despite being in Tier 6, as it was a full member before the SFA's 2019 AGM 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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