Arabdownunder Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 6 hours ago, welshbairn said: I remember reading an application form for Council jobs in Mosul when IS were in charge. It was mainly your standard job application you would get here, but there was a question about your attitude to martyrdom. Like the Nazis I think they appreciate the value of decent records and paperwork. Probably too late for you if you're after a career change. Did you get the job? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 11 hours ago, welshbairn said: Don't remember where I read the translated form, but here's some stuff about their bureaucratic niceties. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/04/04/world/middleeast/isis-documents-mosul-iraq.html I'm impressed. There must be people captured that will acknowledge being in ISIS, but claim to have been in admin rather than frontline duties. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Sergeant Wilson said: I'm impressed. There must be people captured that will acknowledge being in ISIS, but claim to have been in admin rather than frontline duties. Clerks for the Caliphate? Has a nice ring to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47336524 Kinda disappointed that the comments are disabled. There was a high chance of Gammon head's gone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Interesting to see that they haven't stripped Jack Letts of his nationality even though he also has Canadian citizenship. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 On 20/02/2019 at 23:57, welshbairn said: That's the difficulty the UK Home Office has. If she was trying to recruit her school friends on Facebook or whatever that would probably be enough to send her to jail, but it sounds like she just went out there and married a Dutch fighter/terrorist, and stayed at home when the bombs allowed. There are ways of forcing her to undergo de-radicalisation treatment and having to sign a form at a police station every day etc, but thought crimes aren't yet a thing in UK law. She has admitted on Camera to being a member of ISIS. Bit more than a thought crime. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 I see the son of Abu Hamster is making a big appeal to have citizenship reinstated. But I have not seen much in the way of tugging at the heart strings appeals to his naive youth etc from those who have championed Begum. This woman is a still unrepentant fascist supporter of an organisations who were explicit in their plans for genocides. They actively encourage mass rape of children. The argument from anyone with a brain should be the principle as to whether the home secretary should have these powers and the principle of how to engage with the supporters of the attempt to create a global fascist empire. Those who made emotional appeals to the instance of this thick as mince twit have left a door open to be called hypocrites for not supporting some very nasty scumbags that are going to be surfacing in the coming months. Some back channel speculation is that the SDF is looking to hand her over the Assad regime who can then make a big play of being compassionate to her while indulging in a orgy of vengeance on those with less celebrity appeal. US seems to be leaving some boots on the ground to keep the Turks and Assad off of the SDF territory but I would not bet a weeks wages on it. But the mess that is Syria is a far worse than most realise. Lots of noise about PKK trying to oppress\force out non Kurd ethnicities from some parts of SDF territory and what is going on in Putin\Assad controlled land is likely as dark as night. Amidst the huge scale of human misery in that country is truly sickening that one thick, gullible East London fascist gets all this attention and sympathy. But the important thing is you have your little internet footstamp and get to strut around as having achieved something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, dorlomin said: Abu Hamster Roland Rat's oft forgotten Middle Eastern sidekick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, dorlomin said: They actively encourage mass rape of children. A good lawyer could make a case for her being one of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 20 hours ago, Arabdownunder said: Did you get the job? He got knocked back and had to take his second choice of Highland Council. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 She wasn't a member of IS. She just lived there. Are you a member of the UK? No she never lived in Islamic State as it’s not a country recognised by any nation she lived in Syria and possibly Iraq and was a supporter and possible member of the terrorist group DAESH. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Personally like many I’d let her rot where she is but then it’s hardly fair on the Syrians and the Kurds who currently hold her and under international law she’s probably going to have to come home. What to do with her after that is the issue as we’ve no idea how dangerous she is and her potential to radicalise others. I’d imagine the government will charge her with anything they can come up with to take her off the streets and then SO15 will spend years monitoring her at a huge cost. She should certainly have her child taken into care and preferably not her family as they were the ones who raised her. Was she brainwashed? Probably but undoing that is difficult, I don’t buy the she was only a child as at 15 you know right from wrong and as an adult now she will face severe consequences on her return. The other huge issue is possible retribution attacks by far right idiots once she is back on the streets as she’s been so high profile so she may need a new identity. All in all she’s a very stupid girl and I do feel for her family and child but I have little sympathy for her. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 On 21/02/2019 at 18:36, Glenconner said: Fair play to you, can't be too many readers of Arabic on P+B Are you saying Dundee United supporters can't read? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 9 hours ago, dorlomin said: But the important thing is you have your little internet footstamp and get to strut around as having achieved something. Well, that's somebody telt. I'm just not sure who. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Turns out that whilst Corbyn is trying to score political points by saying she should be allowed to return and nobody should have their citizenship stripped from them, McDonnell has been calling for people who fight for the Israeli Army to be stripped of theirs. https://order-order.com/2019/02/22/mcdonnell-strip-brits-fight-israeli-state-citizenship/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, NewBornBairn said: Turns out that whilst Corbyn is trying to score political points by saying she should be allowed to return and nobody should have their citizenship stripped from them, McDonnell has been calling for people who fight for the Israeli Army to be stripped of theirs. https://order-order.com/2019/02/22/mcdonnell-strip-brits-fight-israeli-state-citizenship/ Good choice of source m8. The people in that comment section display such a high level of intellect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Who gives a f**k about the source if the story is true? I suspect there are many people here who would agree that anyone fighting for the IDF should have their British citizenship removed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, NewBornBairn said: Who gives a f**k about the source if the story is true? I suspect there are many people here who would agree that anyone fighting for the IDF should have their British citizenship removed Well when you're trying to prove something to be true, then the source tends to matter m8. That site appears to be full of Thatcherite "roooool Britannia" types though. Edited February 23, 2019 by BawWatchin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL-FFC Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, NewBornBairn said: Who gives a f**k about the source if the story is true? I suspect there are many people here who would agree that anyone fighting for the IDF should have their British citizenship removed Not one to defend the IDF in this but the media only portrays an a specific side to any conflict your never going to get an unbia view there was one a few years back where Israel launched an attack on Palestinian territory with 12 missiles fired in retalation what wasnt reported was the 100 and odd Mortars/Rockets that was fired into Israel. Whichever way you lean on the Israel thing neither side is innocent in it. Few other points on the Bethnal school girl the father of the one at the moment had took his daughter to a hate preacher anti western protest (his excuse was he couldnt get a babysitter) way to go for great parenting. She's shown no remorse for what she has done or been involved with the comment "i had heard it was ok in Islam to behead someone" says it all and as for the "i am willing to TRY and change comment" the down side of that its not a trial run and the mistake is when the security services slip up and someone ends up dying because of it. As for Letts and the rest of them the way i see it is all of them sided with Isis when things were going good, now that Isis is on its arse all of them funnily enough were doing humanitarian work or "i was a housewife" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Yea it’s mental that people are trying to have a nuanced take on an issue that’s been dominating the headlines for a week and not then scanning through every related case in the news to repeat the same point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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