Melanius Mullarkey Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 43 minutes ago, throbber said: “Down the field” What? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 “Down the field” What?Your type spend most nights “down the field”, don’t act like ye dinna ken. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Just now, jamamafegan said: Your type spend most nights “down the field”, don’t act like ye dinna ken. Is this a fermer thing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Someone did a similar joke on FB about getting a council house in Dundee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonksy+HisChristianParade Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 hour ago, JamieThomas said: I would 100% exterminate all "Lad" social media accounts before I would ISIS Haha yeah 100% - they are literally the worst!!!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 She should really do the decent thing. Hand the baby over to the grandparents, let the baby grow up in a free democracy and she can stay in that camp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 10 hours ago, Granny Danger said: I assume to gain Bangladeshi citizenship she would need to apply for it, if she doesn’t and she’s stripped of her British citizenship that would be unlawful. No, its quite common to inherent citizenship automatically from parents and so on. She would have to apply for a Bangladeshi passport but that is not the same thing as having to apply for citizenship. UK citizenship works the same in some cases. Some of this woman's supporters have been passing round a case where this was tried on two Bangladeshi men and it failed. However it failed in their case because you have to apply to retain your Bangladeshi citizenship at 21, clearly not applicable to a 19 year old. This has already been done to about 100 people and I had seen someone say it had been tested in the ECHR already. Its not that uncommon for rules over dual citizenship to have grounds for removing it from someone. My big issue with this is it is in the arbitrary gift of the Home Secretary rather than going through a judicial process where court rules on an application by the state to remove the citizenship. The kvetching and wailing on her behalf does not seem to come from people who have listened to what she said. The newborn is a totally different case and should still have rights to UK citizenship and his care should be a matter of great concern. But Syria is full of hundreds of thousands of very young children in equally distressing circumstances often driven there by the scum she is still unapologetic for joining. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I have tried to imagine her telling a bedtime story to her child. "Once upon a time, there was this terrible witch and her name was, er, um, well she was me. Anyway, she and her friends decided for fun to go to this really dangerous place that was really scary but hey - you only live once. One day one of her friends stepped on a landmine and was blown to bits. Oh hang on, maybe I got that wrong. Anyway she's dead. So is the other friend - I think. So then this horrible witch, I mean me, met this horrible man who liked to chop people's heads off. Actually he's your dad. No, that's not right. He was your dead brother's dad - or was it your dead sister - not sure. Anyway, seeing people with their head chopped off really isn't that scary. Oh where am I? Well it doesn't matter. They all lived happily ever after. Oh who am I trying to kid - they all died." "So that's the end of the story. Good night. Sweet dreams." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 But Syria is full of hundreds of thousands of very young children in equally distressing circumstances often driven there by the scum she is still unapologetic for joining. I thought she had her application to return to the UK turned down? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 36 minutes ago, dorlomin said: No, its quite common to inherent citizenship automatically from parents and so on. She would have to apply for a Bangladeshi passport but that is not the same thing as having to apply for citizenship. UK citizenship works the same in some cases. Some of this woman's supporters have been passing round a case where this was tried on two Bangladeshi men and it failed. However it failed in their case because you have to apply to retain your Bangladeshi citizenship at 21, clearly not applicable to a 19 year old. This has already been done to about 100 people and I had seen someone say it had been tested in the ECHR already. Its not that uncommon for rules over dual citizenship to have grounds for removing it from someone. My big issue with this is it is in the arbitrary gift of the Home Secretary rather than going through a judicial process where court rules on an application by the state to remove the citizenship. The kvetching and wailing on her behalf does not seem to come from people who have listened to what she said. The newborn is a totally different case and should still have rights to UK citizenship and his care should be a matter of great concern. But Syria is full of hundreds of thousands of very young children in equally distressing circumstances often driven there by the scum she is still unapologetic for joining. I reckon the courts will decide if she has dual citizenship and what precedents apply. I am assuming she could be denied Bangladeshi citizenship or have it revoked. In that case I assume her claim to British citizenship would be stronger. Using the term “assume” a lot here as I am not a lawyer specialising in this area of expertise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I'm enjoying the narrative that she's some sort of mass killer who would be stabbing absolutely everyone she comes across should she be allowed back to England. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: I'm enjoying the narrative that she's some sort of mass killer who would be stabbing absolutely everyone she comes across should she be allowed back to England. Given what she will have witnessed over the past four years, no one can ultimately be sure what she would be capable of if she were allowed to return. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) Would the ECJ be the ultimate arbiter on whether her UK citizenship could be withdrawn - that would upset the gammons! Edited February 20, 2019 by btb 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrshireTon Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 hour ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: 8 hours ago, BillyAnchor said: Someone did a similar joke on FB about getting a council house in Dundee Auchinleck on my feed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 35 minutes ago, Adam said: Given what she will have witnessed over the past four years, no one can ultimately be sure what she would be capable of if she were allowed to return. How many other folk who have returned to the UK in similar circumstances have went on mad stabbing sprees at every single given opportunity? I haven't heard of any recently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: How many other folk who have returned to the UK in similar circumstances have went on mad stabbing sprees at every single given opportunity? I haven't heard of any recently. Given the number of those who travelled to Syria from the UK, and then returned, is relatively small, and has all occurred within the last few years, they will be deemed a significant security risk not only because of the radicalisation they went through whilst over there, but also because of potentially becoming desensitised to violence. Just because they haven't committed an atrocity such as a stabbing spree in the streets does not mean that they will never do so. I'm fairly left in my views but my opinion is that she can get to f**k. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: How many other folk who have returned to the UK in similar circumstances have went on mad stabbing sprees at every single given opportunity? I haven't heard of any recently. Around 400 people have been quietly allowed back in after being involved with IS or other groups in Syria. She's been refused because she made the front page of the Sun. She was born and educated in Britain, f**k knows why she should be Bangladesh's or the Kurds responsibility. Edited February 20, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I'm enjoying the narrative that she's some sort of mass killer who would be stabbing absolutely everyone she comes across should she be allowed back to England.I’m also enjoying the narrative that this terrorist recruit should be allowed back into the country she hates without considering the fact that she might present a danger to the public in the future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Daily mail readers view of the lassie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 minute ago, jamamafegan said: I’m also enjoying the narrative that this terrorist recruit should be allowed back into the country she hates without considering the fact that she might present a danger to the public in the future. What public do you think she should maybe present a danger to? Bangladeshis? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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