welshbairn Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said: NS, behind a paywall so just the screenshot Found it, no paywall for me so you can probably get it on incognito, happy to C&P it if not. Thought this would only be for dual citizens which is bad enough, but now it's if in the opinion of the Home Office they could apply for citizenship somewhere else, and I think even if they were born in Britain if a parent has some claim to citizenship in another country. And without warning, a holiday in Benidorm, passport revoked and no right of appeal. That's what I'm taking from it anyway. https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2021/12/exclusive-british-citizenship-of-six-million-people-could-be-jeopardised-by-home-office-plans 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDoddyKane Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 I would let her back, if she committed any crimes she should be tried for them otherwise just let her be free. The truth is shes got more right to be in uk than some of the people arriving illegally 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Just now, BigDoddyKane said: I would let her back, if she committed any crimes she should be tried for them otherwise just let her be free. The truth is shes got more right to be in uk than some of the people arriving illegally And why should the Kurds who are threatened on all sides and don't have a pot to piss in have to pay for her food and guards? She was made in Britain, whatever she's done or not done she's our responsibility. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Observer's got a bit about this stuff. Quote Their testimonies follow a report from legal charity Reprieve that found two-thirds of British women detained in north-east Syria were coerced or trafficked to the region, often lured there after being groomed on dating sites, before being sexually exploited. The report found that many girls were under 18 when they travelled to IS territory and have since suffered exploitation, forced marriage, rape and domestic servitude. They include a British girl who was trafficked to Syria aged 12, then raped and impregnated by an IS fighter. One of the most high-profile British cases of children joining IS involves three London schoolgirls, Kadiza Sultana, 16, and Amira Abase and Shamima Begum, both 15. The latter’s lawyer says there is “overwhelming evidence” Begum was trafficked. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/dec/04/police-treated-us-like-criminals-say-families-of-girls-trafficked-to-islamic-state-in-syria 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 On 03/12/2021 at 18:41, welshbairn said: Found it, no paywall for me so you can probably get it on incognito, happy to C&P it if not. Thought this would only be for dual citizens which is bad enough, but now it's if in the opinion of the Home Office they could apply for citizenship somewhere else, and I think even if they were born in Britain if a parent has some claim to citizenship in another country. And without warning, a holiday in Benidorm, passport revoked and no right of appeal. That's what I'm taking from it anyway. https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2021/12/exclusive-british-citizenship-of-six-million-people-could-be-jeopardised-by-home-office-plans Scary how this has passed relatively quietly because it might just be the most racist policy the UK has implemented in a generation. you could be born and raised here but because one of your grannies where from somewhere else, we think you could just go "back" there instead f**k off Britain , seriously just f**k off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapy FFC Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: Scary how this has passed relatively quietly because it might just be the most racist policy the UK has implemented in a generation. you could be born and raised here but because one of your grannies where from somewhere else, we think you could just go "back" there instead f**k off Britain , seriously just f**k off Could Priti Patel be affected by this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Soapy FFC said: Could Priti Patel be affected by this? Grandparents from India and parents from Uganda. TBH, I'm starting to think this policy has merit... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 So it turns out the three girls were trafficked from the UK to ISIS by a Canadian intelligence agent. And the UK government and police have known this for years. It's outright child sex trafficking of British girls. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Blades Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Detournement said: So it turns out the three girls were trafficked from the UK to ISIS by a Canadian intelligence agent. And the UK government and police have known this for years. It's outright state sponsored child sex trafficking of British girls. FTFY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 So it turns out the three girls were trafficked from the UK to ISIS by a Canadian intelligence agent. And the UK government and police have known this for years. It's outright child sex trafficking of British girls. No they were not at least accordingtothe BBC. The Canadian only facilitated their entry to Syria from Turkey. These 3 made their own way from the UK to Turkey to seek a way into Syria to join up with IS. There is zero to suggest the Canadian "agent" arranged their travel to Turkey and it appear these girls were actively seeking someone to help them into Syria thus how they came into contact with this guy who was in Turkey providing that very service for months.I cant see the Times article the above is the BBC version of events. If the Times says different fair enough but it's a wild take from the story today to UK State sponsored sex trafficking but hey ho that's your schtick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Sounds like he was hanging around Istanbul bus station shouting "Anyone for Raqqa?". For a long time Turkey were actively encouraging it, anyone making trouble for the Kurds and Assad was to be encouraged. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Billy Jean King said: No they were not at least accordingtothe BBC. The Canadian only facilitated their entry to Syria from Turkey. These 3 made their own way from the UK to Turkey to seek a way into Syria to join up with IS. There is zero to suggest the Canadian "agent" arranged their travel to Turkey and it appear these girls were actively seeking someone to help them into Syria thus how they came into contact with this guy who was in Turkey providing that very service for months. I cant see the Times article the above is the BBC version of events. If the Times says different fair enough but it's a wild take from the story today to UK State sponsored sex trafficking but hey ho that's your schtick. For once, I can agree with you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 12 hours ago, Billy Jean King said: No they were not at least accordingtothe BBC. The Canadian only facilitated their entry to Syria from Turkey. These 3 made their own way from the UK to Turkey to seek a way into Syria to join up with IS. There is zero to suggest the Canadian "agent" arranged their travel to Turkey and it appear these girls were actively seeking someone to help them into Syria thus how they came into contact with this guy who was in Turkey providing that very service for months. I cant see the Times article the above is the BBC version of events. If the Times says different fair enough but it's a wild take from the story today to UK State sponsored sex trafficking but hey ho that's your schtick. don't know if it's been covered before but how did they manage to leave UK as minors ? I thought you had to be over 16 to go on a plane by yourself 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 don't know if it's been covered before but how did they manage to leave UK as minors ? I thought you had to be over 16 to go on a plane by yourselfDepends on the individual airline but there is no blanket rule preventing it (assuming they flew). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) Truedau is looking into it apparently. Gumby as ever digs out a few facts that the media aren't highlighting. The Canadian Embassy in Jordan who recruited the trafficker was being run by an ex RCMP officer close to Trudeau which isn't the standard protocol and the guy seems to have been sent there specifically due to ISIS. And bizarrely the trafficker's alias was Dr Mehmet Resit who was one of the Turks most responsible for the Armenian genocide. That should be a huge red flag. Edited September 1, 2022 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I think ISIS might have captured the real Rees-Moog and replaced him with someone slightly less nasty. https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/shamima-begum-shouldnt-have-lost-her-british-citizenship/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 On 26/02/2024 at 11:45, Sherrif John Bunnell said: I think ISIS might have captured the real Rees-Moog and replaced him with someone slightly less nasty. https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/shamima-begum-shouldnt-have-lost-her-british-citizenship/ Read the article. Only because it breaches constitutional principles not because she was brainwashed and raped. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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