The Moonster Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 10 hours ago, Boo Khaki said: Only because they fucked up yen years ago and permitted her to run with women before they realised the implications. She's a woman in every regard, that's not in dispute. What is in dispute is that its in any way fair to permit her to compete in events that are participated in almost exclusively by biological and physiological birth females. Enormous difference between sex and gender. She's female in gender, identifies and lives as a woman, as is her absolute right. She's still physiolocally so different to 'cis' women though that its palpably ludicrous to expect them to compete with her on fair terms. Everyone keeps talking about what's fair for other athletes, nobody mentioning what's fair for Semenya. Her track career could be over here purely because of her genetics, hows that fair? Biological advantage is present all throughout sport, I reckon you could point to it in just about every sport tbh. 1 hour ago, Dons_1988 said: The only suggestions of racism I've seen on this matter are on P&B. I don't think you can be looking very hard then, pretty much the whole of South Africa are calling it out as racism. The "second white" comment is absolutely, undeniably racist too. She felt like a silver medalist because only 1 white person beat her. I fail to see how that can be defended. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, The Moonster said: I don't think you can be looking very hard then, pretty much the whole of South Africa are calling it out as racism. The "second white" comment is absolutely, undeniably racist too. She felt like a silver medalist because only 1 white person beat her. I fail to see how that can be defended. I lose again. Well done, sir. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Dons_1988 said: I lose again. Well done, sir. Weird reply but okay. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Hessian Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 On 5/2/2019 at 10:56, Herman Hessian said: figures published yesterday stated that male testosterone levels vary from 7.7 to 29.4 nmol/L, so one bloke can have pretty much four times 'as much' as another - how does this compare to the 'Semenya > other women' disparity ? having done a bit of digging, it transpires that 'most women, including elite female athletes, have natural testosterone levels of 0.12 to 1.79 nmol/L' (sauce = the New York Times) Semenya, as I understand it 'has levels which register on the male spectrum' so, I imagine, a minimum of 7.7 - that would indicate that her readings are at the very least 4.3 times greater than any woman she was to compete against, more than the maximum 'natural' imbalance between testosterone-laden male athletes and their less fully-loaded contemporaries so basically it's like Daley Thompson at the peak of his powers competing against st winifred's school choir (including the nun and half dozen token boys) still think the ruling against her is wrong, though; her entirely natural advantage should no more be mitigated against by crass rulings than Deandre Dayton, Rudy Gobert and the like being forced to play NBA matches on their knees to nullify their natural height advantage over shorter players... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 15 hours ago, Alert Mongoose said: Does she have a knob? Don't think she's married to any P&Bers, no. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 There is a quote from the IAAF here which is interesting:https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/iaaf-deny-report-they-want-to-classify-caster-semenya-as-biological-male-1.3793029%3fmode=ampIf the benefits (bone density etc) are gained through puberty then is reducing the testosterone levels now going to make much difference? Reducing it to 5 nmol/L still also seems a lot higher than found in natural female levels. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Don't see what the problem was. Big Nathaniel had 10x the testosterone of anyone else and was still permitted to play for us: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 1 hour ago, MixuFixit said: The issue is the IAAF decision is based on evidence from one paper that says there is a small but statistically significant effect of testosterone on female performance only in 400 and 800m. ... like whether she has a knob or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Lynsey Sharp sounds like an entitled racists. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emiliano ZaBankie Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Serena Williams is sexy as f**k. Huge tits, huge arse, huge thighs. Correct. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 39 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: Seen her sports illustrated shoot (NSFWish)? Hide contents 1 greenie is not sufficient 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Hessian Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Caster Semenya wins 800m in Doha and fends off retirement talk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 I see my girl won the 800m in Doha tonight. Lindsey Sharpe was 9th. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Don't see what the problem was. Big Nathaniel had 10x the testosterone of anyone else and was still permitted to play for us: He’s fucking pish though. Caster Semenya’s granny is probably faster than Nat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 I see my girl won the 800m in Doha tonight. Lindsey Sharpe was 9th.Aye but where was she in the whites only race that exists in her own small mind? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Really not getting the Serena Williams love here, it’s a wid not from me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Really not getting the Serena Williams love here, it’s a wid not from me. Its intrigue for me. What nick would I be left in by someone that athletic and powerful..... Its a wid from me, followed by a minimum of seven days self cert and a probable doctors line. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Bairnardo said: Its intrigue for me. What nick would I be left in by someone that athletic and powerful..... Its a wid from me, followed by a minimum of seven days self cert and a probable doctors line. I wouldn't know where to start, or where she'd start with me. I'm sure she'd be devastated to know that I'm out on this one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskychimp Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, MONKMAN said: Really not getting the Serena Williams love here, it’s a wid not from me. Whats not to like? I like tits. I like arses. I like thighs. I dont like fat bellies. She ticks all those boxes. Edited May 4, 2019 by whiskychimp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 1 hour ago, whiskychimp said: Whats not to like? I like tits. I like arses. I like thighs. I dont like fat bellies. She ticks all those boxes. It's a no from me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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