The Master Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, South Lanarkshire Jag said: Prepare to be astonished then. The fixture skeleton I've seen has the round dates as: PR1 PR2 R1 Saturday 21st September R2 Saturday 19th October R3 Saturday 23rd November R4 Saturday 18th January R5 Saturday 8th February R6 Saturday 29th February SFs Saturday 11th/Sunday 12th April Final Saturday 9th May Any idea why? It seems absurd to have the Scottish Cup final before the league season has even finished when there’s a free date a fortnight later. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 It will almost certainly be down to having Hampden ready for the Euros. Perhaps Wembley is more used to that sort of stuff. There is a precedent for this - when the Champions League final was at Hampden in 2002, the Scottish Cup final was played before the SPL season finished. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, craigkillie said: when the Champions League final was at Hampden in 2002, the Scottish Cup final was played before the SPL season finished. Not purely due to CL Final though, IIRC? Wasn't that the occasion when SFA & SPL each had Scottish Cup SFs/Final down for different weekends ahead of WC in South Korea-Japan, so Roger Mitchell stuck his "missing" post-split weekend after the Final? Edited June 9, 2019 by HibeeJibee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Is it for the SFA AGM to decide on any possible format changes for next season or is it a Board decision? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughsie Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Burnie_man said: Is it for the SFA AGM to decide on any possible format changes for next season or is it a Board decision? Board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I see Maxwell was quoted today that they were looking at scrapping replays. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 23 minutes ago, Burnie_man said: I see Maxwell was quoted today that they were looking at scrapping replays. What about away goals? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Burnie_man said: I see Maxwell was quoted today that they were looking at scrapping replays. I thought they were one of his justifications for everyone needing lights? Regan & Co went around club meetings 2yrs ago pushing that, but it was rejected. Disappointing to see it raised again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I see Maxwell was quoted today that they were looking at scrapping replays.Why? We don’t have a heavy schedule and these games can bring great excitement to the tournament. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/scottish-cup-replays-could-be-scrapped-to-accommodate-euro-2020-1-4946681 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 In what appear to be syndicated quotes it's attributed it to 'Euro 2020'. Given the Scottish Cup schedule next season is exactly the same as this season and the last several seasons, except the Final is closer to SFs (and neither of those have replays), it's not obvious why that would be so... also replays are in the Scottish Cup rules and no amendment was brought to yesterday's AGM, IIRC. He also claims HL clubs would like no replays and penalties after 90mins (no ET) ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) Not directly related but, as Scotland seems to quite often copy English formats these days, I notice that the FA Cup has lost Fifth Round (last sixteen) Replays and had that whole round moved to midweek for the coming season. Quarter-Final Replays went last year and it seems that they have quietly abolished them forever. Edited June 13, 2019 by Bully Wee Villa 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Bully Wee Villa said: Not directly related but, as Scotland seems to quite often copy English formats these days, I notice that the FA Cup has lost Fifth Round (last sixteen) Replays and had that whole round moved to midweek for the coming season. Quarter-Final Replays went last year and it seems that they have quietly abolished them forever. They scrapped QF replays as wanted to hold QFs directly before March internationals - moved Last 16 to midweek to fit EPL week off in Feb. Neither likely here and they've kept replays pre-Last 16. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Why? We don’t have a heavy schedule and these games can bring great excitement to the tournament.Probably because they can't show replays live on TV due to the UEFA schedules, and therefore you often have decisive games going ahead untelevised. Can't imagine sponsors particularly like that.Sent from my SM-G960F using Pie and Bovril mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 43 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Probably because they can't show replays live on TV due to the UEFA schedules, and therefore you often have decisive games going ahead untelevised. Can't imagine sponsors particularly like that. Sent from my SM-G960F using Pie and Bovril mobile app Isn't this a rule regularly flouted by other FA's without issue. Also does it not apply to 'regularly scheduled games' meaning if a game gets postponed or something its still ok? Even if both those aren't true surely the answer to 'we can't show it on tv' isn't to not bother at all. Big games are still big games that attract good crowds, how can sponsors complain about that level of exposure compared to nothing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, parsforlife said: Isn't this a rule regularly flouted by other FA's without issue. Also does it not apply to 'regularly scheduled games' meaning if a game gets postponed or something its still ok? Even if both those aren't true surely the answer to 'we can't show it on tv' isn't to not bother at all. Big games are still big games that attract good crowds, how can sponsors complain about that level of exposure compared to nothing? The "rule" about clashing domestic games with the Champions League and Europa League comes from a Memorandum of Understanding between UEFA and the European Professional Football Leagues (EPFL). What's interesting is the MOU doesn't mention national Cup competitions, because why would it? It's an agreement between UEFA and the leagues, not the associations. Perhaps there's a different agreement between UEFA and the associations that hasn't been made public. Who knows but them? The point is, though, that anything that stops domestic games being up against European games is with and by the agreement of the relevant organisers of those games. It's not, as is widely believed, a UEFA diktat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 57 minutes ago, parsforlife said: Isn't this a rule regularly flouted by other FA's without issue. Also does it not apply to 'regularly scheduled games' meaning if a game gets postponed or something its still ok? Even if both those aren't true surely the answer to 'we can't show it on tv' isn't to not bother at all. Big games are still big games that attract good crowds, how can sponsors complain about that level of exposure compared to nothing? UEFA hands out fines every time that rule is violated. In England they couldn't care less about it as the money any premier league game that's live on TV brings in is a multiple of the costs of the fine. In Scotland that's not exactly the case and the fine would hit much harder... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Dundonald Bluebell can be added to the list of entrants as they have just been awarded SFA membership. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Burnie_man said: Dundonald Bluebell can be added to the list of entrants as they have just been awarded SFA membership. Same for Jeanfield Swifts, so that makes a total of 27 clubs outside the top 5 tiers in the Scottish Cup. If there is no change to the format, that will mean that only 1 of those will get a bye. The only clubs ineligible for a bye are Auchinleck Talbot, Lochee United, Camelon Juniors and Colville Park. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Who enters at round 1, Bonnyrigg or Whitehill Welfare? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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