English Premier League 2019-20

[pandarilla]

Yer Da just wants football to go back to the good old days when unskilled goons could knock f**k out of the players you paid to see.
Marco Van Basten is a perfect example of why the game had to change for the better.
 

The 'yer da' patter is embarrassing.

It reeks of EPL fanboy.

[lichtie23]

Just seen the United penalty given for the “foul” on James.

Get VAR as far in the sea as possible. I’m very thankful we don’t have it up here and hopefully never will

[Binos]

19 hours ago, Diamonds are Forever said:

 

You may not like how he plays, but by absolutely no definition of the word is it cheating. He is perfectly entitled to put his body anywhere on the pitch he likes. Cheating would be doing something illegal or trying to decieve the referee, neither of which is going on here. Forcing the opposition into making fouls is a huge part of the game, like it is in most sports.

Mane trying to draw a foul is no more cheating than teams playing an offside trap to catch strikers offside.

It's a dive

He's put his foot across for one reason, to get contact, then has hit the deck

It's a dive

[Binos]

10 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said:

The travesty in this shite about the Mane penalty is that folk aren't talking about the Palace penalty (Arsenal defenders leg was out, but looked to me that Zaha dived over it rather than it being a penalty), the Arsenal disallowed goal (looked like players on both sides were jostling for it fairly), the first Man Utd penalty (James knows he isn't getting it to leans onto the Norwich defender then goes down) and the way they have seemingly changed their own protocols midway through a season, but not one about using the pitch-side monitor (although Jonathan Pearce - I know, I know - said that the VAR was checking whether or not Krul was off his line which they also said they wouldn't be doing). How can there still be people oit there who like VAR?

Seeing someones leg out to go over it

Sticking your own leg across someone to get contact to go down

It's all the same thing, diving

But now you get comments like, well the defender should never have dangled a leg like that

[Derry Alli]

Hasn't taken long for Rab to be replaced. 

[RandomGuy.]

11 hours ago, peasy23 said:

The thing with both Krul penalty saves, if they checked it with VAR, what did they actually look at? He appeared to be well off his line at both spot kicks.

They automatically check all penalties taken with VAR.

Apparently VAR informed the ref the keeper was off his line and it was his decision to let it stand, according to Sky.

[Diamonds are Forever]

1 hour ago, Binos said:

It's a dive

He's put his foot across for one reason, to get contact, then has hit the deck

It's a dive

 

He has put his foot across for one reason, to get contact, that is correct. However that does not mean it is a dive, he is literally booted to the ground. If Aurier hadn't touched him he would have stayed on his feet, it's not one of those where he is already on his his way down.

Again, you may not like the fact that he plays like that, but it is perfectly within the laws of the game, he did absolutely nothing against the laws and therefore is not diving/cheating.

Are you against players trying to legally win fouls and free-kicks in every other way too? Or is it just this type that you don't like?

Edited October 28, 2019 by Diamonds are Forever

[Binos]

1 hour ago, Diamonds are Forever said:

 

He has put his foot across for one reason, to get contact, that is correct. However that does not mean it is a dive, he is literally booted to the ground. If Aurier hadn't touched him he would have stayed on his feet, it's not one of those where he is already on his his way down.

Again, you may not like the fact that he plays like that, but it is perfectly within the laws of the game, he did absolutely nothing against the laws and therefore is not diving/cheating.

Are you against players trying to legally win fouls and free-kicks in every other way too? Or is it just this type that you don't like?

Diving is not within the laws of the game

If someone did it in a game you played you would think they had cheated

But then no one does it at those levels

[pandarilla]

Seeing someones leg out to go over it
Sticking your own leg across someone to get contact to go down
It's all the same thing, diving
But now you get comments like, well the defender should never have dangled a leg like that

By putting his leg there he becomes the player with the ball. It really is simple. He gets in front of the defender at that point and he is in possession of the football. The silly c**t chops him down and that's a penalty.

It's genuinely nowhere near a dive. The old Michael Owen throwing your legs into the defender is a dive. I hated that one. Knowing the keeper is there and going down and taking the contact is a dive.

That incident was simply not a dive. And everyone else on the thread is telling you that. Not one person agrees. Not a single one.

[Ginaro]

2 hours ago, Binos said:

Diving is not within the laws of the game

If someone did it in a game you played you would think they had cheated

But then no one does it at those levels

Of course it is, Law 12.3 - Yellow card:

• attempts to deceive the referee, e.g. by feigning injury or pretending to have been fouled (simulation)

Glossary:

Deceive

Act to mislead/trick the referee into giving an incorrect decision/disciplinary sanction which benefits the deceiver and/or their team

Simulation

An action which creates a wrong/false impression that something has occurred when it has not (see also deceive); committed by a player to gain an unfair advantage

[Binos]

8 hours ago, pandarilla said:

By putting his leg there he becomes the player with the ball. It really is simple. He gets in front of the defender at that point and he is in possession of the football. The silly c**t chops him down and that's a penalty.

It's genuinely nowhere near a dive. The old Michael Owen throwing your legs into the defender is a dive. I hated that one. Knowing the keeper is there and going down and taking the contact is a dive.

That incident was simply not a dive. And everyone else on the thread is telling you that. Not one person agrees. Not a single one.

He created contact to pretend fall over and get a penalty

He does it every week

Edited October 29, 2019 by Binos

[Binos]

8 hours ago, Ginaro said:

Of course it is, Law 12.3 - Yellow card:

• attempts to deceive the referee, e.g. by feigning injury or pretending to have been fouled (simulation)

Glossary:

Deceive

Act to mislead/trick the referee into giving an incorrect decision/disciplinary sanction which benefits the deceiver and/or their team

Simulation

An action which creates a wrong/false impression that something has occurred when it has not (see also deceive); committed by a player to gain an unfair advantage

He is creating a false impression of what has occurred

To get a penalty

As he did against Leicester

As he did in the first half for free kick v winks

[pandarilla]

He created contact to pretend fall over and get a penalty
He does it every week

He got his body into a position where the ball was his to lose.

He got chopped by a reckless defender.

If he does it every week then he's a great player.

[RandomGuy.]

I think we all know the real reason why @Binos is calling African striker Sadio Mane a diver for being booted into the air, whilst ignoring British winger Daniel James' blatant dive for a penalty...

[Savage Henry]

I think we all know the real reason why [mention=73110]Binos[/mention] is calling African striker Sadio Mane a diver for being booted into the air, whilst ignoring British winger Daniel James' blatant dive for a penalty...

Do you think he’s going to call African players “tactically naive”?

[Bairnardo]

See when a striker in possession and a defender are running alongside eachother and the striker goes across the defender knowing that the defender is then unable to make a challenge or it will be a foul, is that cheating?

This scenario happens every game. It is, and has always been regarded as clever, if absolutely basic, forward play.

Is this Binos guy saying that getting the foul in that scenario is cheating?

[The Minertaur]

57 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

See when a striker in possession and a defender are running alongside eachother and the striker goes across the defender knowing that the defender is then unable to make a challenge or it will be a foul, is that cheating?

This scenario happens every game. It is, and has always been regarded as clever, if absolutely basic, forward play.

Is this Binos guy saying that getting the foul in that scenario is cheating?

Same with forwards winning fouls while challenging for headers.  Happens all the time and is a key part of football.

Mane did everything right.  Aurier did everything wrong.

[senorsoupe]

5 hours ago, Bairnardo said:

See when a striker in possession and a defender are running alongside eachother and the striker goes across the defender knowing that the defender is then unable to make a challenge or it will be a foul, is that cheating?

This scenario happens every game. It is, and has always been regarded as clever, if absolutely basic, forward play.

Is this Binos guy saying that getting the foul in that scenario is cheating?

This

Mane's positioning gave Aurier two options 

1. Commit a foul and concede a penalty

2. Let Mane free on goal (where he is likely to score)

This is intelligent forward play by Mane to force an error, not some sort of cheating or diving.

[Bully Wee Villa]

I can't decide, I wish Binos would share his views. 

[Bairnardo]

I can't decide, I wish Binos would share his views. 

Something something cheat.

Something young folk