Jambomo Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 The bigger controversy is the VAR decisions in the Arsenal v Palace match. I thought they looked pretty dodgy decisions to be honest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Clyde Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I didn't watch it. But best to suspend Mane from the next League game just in case. And Salah, Mane and Van Dijk too 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds are Forever Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Binos said: Cheating you mean You may not like how he plays, but by absolutely no definition of the word is it cheating. He is perfectly entitled to put his body anywhere on the pitch he likes. Cheating would be doing something illegal or trying to decieve the referee, neither of which is going on here. Forcing the opposition into making fouls is a huge part of the game, like it is in most sports. Mane trying to draw a foul is no more cheating than teams playing an offside trap to catch strikers offside. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 It's cheatingI'm the first man on here to criticise diving but that was not cheating at all. He's getting his body in the right place and the it's a penalty all day long. Defenders get their body across strikers all the time and draw fouls (although sometimes they absolutely cheat by throwing themselves). He was clearly fouled by a stupid tackle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David W Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) Liverpool did very well to win that and actually played pretty well. If Lloris had been in goals, it would have been far more comfortable. Fabinho is an absolutely fantastic player. Edited October 27, 2019 by David W 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerrymcc1978 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Binos said: It's cheating no it isnt , he gets kicked and if aurier is daft and rash enough to kick him its his fault , stone waller , if you don't think so you are a complete moron 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerrymcc1978 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Binos said: Mane didn't go for the ball He went to create contact so he could go down, as he did with winks in the first half seen some things on here but you are now saying someone "created" contact, i've never heard of that , im almost certain that aurier "created" the contact by smashing mane in the leg 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Bridge Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Yer Da just wants football to go back to the good old days when unskilled goons could knock f**k out of the players you paid to see. Marco Van Basten is a perfect example of why the game had to change for the better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I've never understood what Wenger saw in Xhaka, he should have been one of the first players Emery should have punted out the door. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRocketman II Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 6 hours ago, gerrymcc1978 said: seen some things on here but you are now saying someone "created" contact, i've never heard of that , an attacker initiating contact to try and win a penalty happens all the time. if you have never heard of that, you can't be watching too many games - or you have a very closed interpretation of things that happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 The travesty in this shite about the Mane penalty is that folk aren't talking about the Palace penalty (Arsenal defenders leg was out, but looked to me that Zaha dived over it rather than it being a penalty), the Arsenal disallowed goal (looked like players on both sides were jostling for it fairly), the first Man Utd penalty (James knows he isn't getting it to leans onto the Norwich defender then goes down) and the way they have seemingly changed their own protocols midway through a season, but not one about using the pitch-side monitor (although Jonathan Pearce - I know, I know - said that the VAR was checking whether or not Krul was off his line which they also said they wouldn't be doing). How can there still be people oit there who like VAR? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 The travesty in this shite about the Mane penalty is that folk aren't talking about the Palace penalty (Arsenal defenders leg was out, but looked to me that Zaha dived over it rather than it being a penalty), the Arsenal disallowed goal (looked like players on both sides were jostling for it fairly), the first Man Utd penalty (James knows he isn't getting it to leans onto the Norwich defender then goes down) and the way they have seemingly changed their own protocols midway through a season, but not one about using the pitch-side monitor (although Jonathan Pearce - I know, I know - said that the VAR was checking whether or not Krul was off his line which they also said they wouldn't be doing). How can there still be people oit there who like VAR?The thing with both Krul penalty saves, if they checked it with VAR, what did they actually look at? He appeared to be well off his line at both spot kicks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 9 hours ago, gerrymcc1978 said: no it isnt , he gets kicked and if aurier is daft and rash enough to kick him its his fault , stone waller , if you don't think so you are a complete moron You're indoctrinated 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 9 hours ago, gerrymcc1978 said: seen some things on here but you are now saying someone "created" contact, i've never heard of that , im almost certain that aurier "created" the contact by smashing mane in the leg Open your eyes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 4 hours ago, KingRocketman II said: an attacker initiating contact to try and win a penalty happens all the time. if you have never heard of that, you can't be watching too many games - or you have a very closed interpretation of things that happen. Players have been looking for fouls for years anyway. It's not a new thing. 3 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said: The travesty in this shite about the Mane penalty is that folk aren't talking about the Palace penalty (Arsenal defenders leg was out, but looked to me that Zaha dived over it rather than it being a penalty), the Arsenal disallowed goal (looked like players on both sides were jostling for it fairly), the first Man Utd penalty (James knows he isn't getting it to leans onto the Norwich defender then goes down) and the way they have seemingly changed their own protocols midway through a season, but not one about using the pitch-side monitor (although Jonathan Pearce - I know, I know - said that the VAR was checking whether or not Krul was off his line which they also said they wouldn't be doing). How can there still be people oit there who like VAR? They won't stop with fucking around with it either. It's going to get worse I think, as players, managers and pundits will be calling more and more for loads of other incidents to be reviewed and the FA will cave in pretty quickly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds are Forever Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said: The travesty in this shite about the Mane penalty is that folk aren't talking about the Palace penalty (Arsenal defenders leg was out, but looked to me that Zaha dived over it rather than it being a penalty), the Arsenal disallowed goal (looked like players on both sides were jostling for it fairly), the first Man Utd penalty (James knows he isn't getting it to leans onto the Norwich defender then goes down) and the way they have seemingly changed their own protocols midway through a season, but not one about using the pitch-side monitor (although Jonathan Pearce - I know, I know - said that the VAR was checking whether or not Krul was off his line which they also said they wouldn't be doing). How can there still be people oit there who like VAR? I'd like VAR if it was used how it has been everywhere else, where it is just a monitor at the side of the pitch which allows the referee to check their own decision. Or ideally a Rugby type system where there is open communication between the referee and someone watching a screen, but the referee makes the final call. I think that is a long way off in football though. The current system where a bunch of nameless officials can just dictate decisions is ridiculous. They are totally flip flopping back and forward too. Last week the complaint was that they weren't getting involved enough and over turning enough decisions. They obviously heard this and so this week have gone the other way and just intervened by giving the most ridiculous decisions. The Man Utd penalty was unbelievable, the Villa one not much better. There also has to be better communication of what is actually going on. To have fans celebrate a goal and then wait for 2 minutes, without having a clue what is going on, is going to ruin the live experience for fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanMc99 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 9 hours ago, KingRocketman II said: an attacker initiating contact to try and win a penalty happens all the time. if you have never heard of that, you can't be watching too many games - or you have a very closed interpretation of things that happen. "created" contact is a lot different from initiating though isn't it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanMc99 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 6 hours ago, Binos said: Open your eyes did he just type that message with his eyes closed? are you a spurs fan or someone who hates liverpool, only two possibilities for you to come out with the absolute shite you've come out with. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 49 minutes ago, DanMc99 said: did he just type that message with his eyes closed? are you a spurs fan or someone who hates liverpool, only two possibilities for you to come out with the absolute shite you've come out with. You youngsters don't know what an honest game of football is 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 You youngsters don't know what an honest game of football isHope this is tongue in cheek 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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