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Rangers' Wee Spot in Europe - Season 2023/24


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48 minutes ago, GroundHoppingBear said:

Utterly hilarious how much some of you care about Rangers. Stick to being beaten by no-marks on the regular.

From Birkirkara to Qarabag your European adventures shame us.

Progres Neiderkom?

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Really not looking forward to this tonight. I get the feeling that we are going to set up ultra-defensive and try and shit-fest our way to a result which is never enjoyable or easy on the old ticker.

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5 hours ago, AJF said:

Really not looking forward to this tonight. I get the feeling that we are going to set up ultra-defensive and try and shit-fest our way to a result which is never enjoyable or easy on the old ticker.

Sounds about right.  Best hope is a 0-0 with a win on penalties.  Either that or Tav scores our statutory penalty in the final five minutes and we hang on for the 10 minutes of stoppage time to win 1-0.

Bet365 not showing much of a wad going on Rangers to win in 90 minutes... PSV are 1/2, Rangers 5/1. 

TBH, for coefficient points, cash incentives and "stature" considerations I'm still unsure if CL or EL is best. Aye, the CL carries the status but given our recent experience there I'm not particularly impressed by that.  A better chance of some wins (and the cash rewards that go with them) and increased morale seems more attractive.  

Of course, if we thump PSV I'll take it!

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4 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said:

TBH, for coefficient points, cash incentives and "stature" considerations I'm still unsure if CL or EL is best. Aye, the CL carries the status but given our recent experience there I'm not particularly impressed by that.  A better chance of some wins (and the cash rewards that go with them) and increased morale seems more attractive.  

 

Yeah, I don't think I'll be too disheartened with a Europa League consolation prize in respect of the coefficient and potential progression if we do go out tonight, however financially it would be catastrophic in our bid to catch Celtic.

I'm sure I read that Celtic would be guaranteed around €35m minimum (before any ticket sales or income for winning/drawing matches) if we fail to qualify for the CL Group Stage. This would drop to €30m if we do.

By comparison, if we qualify for the CL Group Stage we would get €28m. If we drop into the Europa League that falls to €13m and would be further reduced if Aberdeen also qualify.

So a loss tonight essentially hands Celtic a further €22m advantage over us.

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24 minutes ago, AJF said:

Yeah, I don't think I'll be too disheartened with a Europa League consolation prize in respect of the coefficient and potential progression if we do go out tonight, however financially it would be catastrophic in our bid to catch Celtic.

I'm sure I read that Celtic would be guaranteed around €35m minimum (before any ticket sales or income for winning/drawing matches) if we fail to qualify for the CL Group Stage. This would drop to €30m if we do.

By comparison, if we qualify for the CL Group Stage we would get €28m. If we drop into the Europa League that falls to €13m and would be further reduced if Aberdeen also qualify.

So a loss tonight essentially hands Celtic a further €22m advantage over us.

Fair enough! It is however proof positive that the European Competitions as presently arranged are simply a means of transferring cash into the coffers of the already wealthy clubs to the detriment of everyone else. Not really a surprise (Scottish football has been a food chain for decades) but it is starkly demonstrated in your post.  It also makes my usual "support Scottish clubs in Europe" financially untenable! "mon BK Hacken" wouldn't normally be something I'd say, but, well, millions of Euros are millions of Euros...

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Don't know how Beale will approach this tonight.  The first 45 mins at Ibrox were torture, but we looked better going forward in the second half once Matondo had been introduced. 

I could see him sticking with the same XI, except for Matondo in for Sima from the start to try and give us an out ball down the left to attack them with pace when we get the ball. 

 

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