Spyro Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) It’s almost impossible as a keeper to be completely on your line at that moment, every instinct ingrained in you from 5 year old makes you take a step (or 3!) forward to be able to dive and meet the ball properly... more proof that the rules are made up by folk who haven’t played or been in that position before Edited June 20, 2019 by Spyro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Some interesting changes. I like the subs going off the pitch at the nearest point if it's enforced properly. A bit unclear/ unsure over this one: If the goalkeeper attempts to clear ("release into play") a throw-in or backpass and their clearance fails, then they can handle the ball. Ifab says this is because "when the goalkeeper clearly kicks or tries to kick the ball into play, this shows no intention to handle the ball". So basically, if you mess up your clearance then just pick the ball up anyway? That seems far too generous to keepers, if they mess up and come under pressure from a striker then they should have to deal with it. It can make for an exciting moment in play. Unless I'm missing something here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 39 minutes ago, PauloPerth said: So basically, if you mess up your clearance then just pick the ball up anyway? That seems far too generous to keepers, if they mess up and come under pressure from a striker then they should have to deal with it. It can make for an exciting moment in play. Unless I'm missing something here? The situation it addresses would be the one like this where the kick is sliced or the wind blows it back 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) Sounds as if they've more or less reverted to the days when a keeper had to stand rooted to the spot before the penalty was kicked. ETA - https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11745438/no-var-in-premier-league-for-goalkeepers-position-at-penalties The EPL won't be using VAR for it though, they say. Edited June 20, 2019 by 7-2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 12 hours ago, Ginaro said: The situation it addresses would be the one like this where the kick is sliced or the wind blows it back Ok, but that's got to be a rarity. Is that the only situation where the new law would apply? What if the keeper under pressure tried to play it away from the striker, or clear it upfield, but fluffed it, and under pressure decided to dive on the ball and pick it up, would that be accepted? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Ok, but that's got to be a rarity. Is that the only situation where the new law would apply? What if the keeper under pressure tried to play it away from the striker, or clear it upfield, but fluffed it, and under pressure decided to dive on the ball and pick it up, would that be accepted? It seems to be the case now. All depending on how refs interpret it, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, PauloPerth said: Ok, but that's got to be a rarity. Is that the only situation where the new law would apply? What if the keeper under pressure tried to play it away from the striker, or clear it upfield, but fluffed it, and under pressure decided to dive on the ball and pick it up, would that be accepted? Well the new law is: http://www.theifab.com/laws/chapter/32/section/93/ An indirect free kick is awarded if a goalkeeper, inside their penalty area, commits any of the following offences: touches the ball with the hand/arm, unless the goalkeeper has clearly kicked or attempted to kick the ball to release it into play, after: (being deliberately kicked to them from a team mate or from a throw-in) Suppose the "to release it into play" will be up to the ref as it's not really defined in the LOTG but seems like as long as they try to kick it then they can pick it up after that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 FIFA have now suspended part of the law regarding keepers not being on their line, but only during penalty shoot outs. It will still be a retake if the keeper moves off the line before the ball is struck, but they won't be shown a yellow card. It will still be a yellow card offence during 90 minutes and extra time. They have obviously realised there is real potential for a keeper to be sent off midway through a shootout. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 FIFA have now suspended part of the law regarding keepers not being on their line, but only during penalty shoot outs. It will still be a retake if the keeper moves off the line before the ball is struck, but they won't be shown a yellow card. It will still be a yellow card offence during 90 minutes and extra time. They have obviously realised there is real potential for a keeper to be sent off midway through a shootout. Great news, hopefully a directive going out to refs to be less strict on it is also happening. At least make it so VAR doesn’t decide this.I think if we change the law from being on the line before the ball is kicked to before the run up is complete then it would be fair, would be on the same timing as illegal feinting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 There’s absolutely no change to the infringement at all. Just the punishment during “kicks from the penalty mark”.I know this, but it suggests fifa are recognising there are problems and might be making other steps in the background. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 On 20/06/2019 at 10:57, Ginaro said: The situation it addresses would be the one like this where the kick is sliced or the wind blows it back I don't see why that needs addressed . Tough shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 13 hours ago, peasy23 said: FIFA have now suspended part of the law regarding keepers not being on their line, but only during penalty shoot outs. It will still be a retake if the keeper moves off the line before the ball is struck, but they won't be shown a yellow card. It will still be a yellow card offence during 90 minutes and extra time. They have obviously realised there is real potential for a keeper to be sent off midway through a shootout. The first penalty shootout at the Women's World Cup is probably going to take a long time with all the VAR decisions on whether or not the GK moved off her line early... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 The first penalty shootout at the Women's World Cup is probably going to take a long time with all the VAR decisions on whether or not the GK moved off her line early...I think FIFA will be secretly praying that they get through the ko stages without one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 The first penalty shootout at the Women's World Cup is probably going to take a long time with all the VAR decisions on whether or not the GK moved off her line early...Not really. Competently coached goalkeepers won’t be breaking the rules - as they shouldn’t be now. Most penalties (unless you play for Dundee United) are scored anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 I think FIFA will be secretly praying that they get through the ko stages without one.We’ve got one.Let’s see how it’s handled. No pressure ref. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 We’ve got one.Let’s see how it’s handled. No pressure ref.1 easy save, rule remains untested IMO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Both keepers booked tonight in Albion rovers vs st Mirren has the suspension been lifted or did it only apply during the World Cup? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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