BFTD Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 This is reminding me of when the DUP were receiving their bung for Northern Ireland in exchange for propping up the Tory government, and Unionists were wailing about how it would have gone to Scotland if the b*****d SNP would only have abandoned all principles for a bit of cash. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 The fact that BJ has put his oar in by demanding the release and return to the UK of Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe will almost certainly result in her being banged up again for god only knows how long. The great man, who was largely responsible for her being banged up in the first place, seems to have forgotten the debt of £400m owed to the Iranian government arising from the non delivery of chieftain tanks ordered by the Shah of Iran before his overthrow in 1979. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 On 06/03/2021 at 22:18, The Skelpit Lug said: Is it not the case that Scottish government's devolved income tax powers doesn't allow it to exempt income tax on the bonus, only Westminster could? Still crap, though. The payment could have been £500 net. There was nothing stopping the Scottish Government from doing this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, strichener said: The payment could have been £500 net. There was nothing stopping the Scottish Government from doing this. Yes, the Scottish Government should have calculated and paid the additional cash required for every single individual in the SNHS to get their £500. It would be simplicity itself and not a fucking impossible task at all. Or HMRC could have just popped the £500 into the non-taxable column. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 8 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: Yes, the Scottish Government should have calculated and paid the additional cash required for every single individual in the SNHS to get their £500. It would be simplicity itself and not a fucking impossible task at all. Or HMRC could have just popped the £500 into the non-taxable column. Spoken like a true contractor who has never used a payroll system. I have a £120 per year product that has a single checkbox for each payment to indicate that it is a net payment. It's right next to the checkboxes for making it NIC and/or tax free which would have been required in your "popping it into the non-taxable column". So actually, yes simplicity itself. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Spoken like a true contractor who has never used a payroll system. I have a £120 per year product that has a single checkbox for each payment to indicate that it is a net payment. It's right next to the checkboxes for making it NIC and/or tax free which would have been required in your "popping it into the non-taxable column". So actually, yes simplicity itself.https://www.thenational.scot/news/18912775.fact-check-snp-government-top-500-nhs-bonus-make-tax-free/Rubbish. The Scottish Government doesn't have the power to make bonuses tax-free. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 10 hours ago, ICTJohnboy said: The fact that BJ has put his oar in by demanding the release and return to the UK of Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe will almost certainly result in her being banged up again for god only knows how long. The great man, who was largely responsible for her being banged up in the first place, seems to have forgotten the debt of £400m owed to the Iranian government arising from the non delivery of chieftain tanks ordered by the Shah of Iran before his overthrow in 1979. Some of you people are demented. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Some of you people are demented. No, sonny, some of us pay attention. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: 8 minutes ago, Stormzy said: Some of you people are demented. No, sonny, some of us pay attention. And then make things up to suit your strange obsessions. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Stormzy said: And then make things up to suit your strange obsessions. Are you so fucking thick you're not aware of any of this? https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/jun/30/nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-richard-ratcliffe-boris-johnson-gaffes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 22 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Are you so fucking thick you're not aware of any of this? https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/jun/30/nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-richard-ratcliffe-boris-johnson-gaffes If you could use your own words that would be helpful you absolute mouth breather. If you please explain how Bojo was largely responsible for her being locked up in the first place that would be wonderful but I'm guessing you can't because you're one of those idiotic posters that lives in your head whilst posting slavish drivel to please your fellow mentally deficient posters. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: https://www.thenational.scot/news/18912775.fact-check-snp-government-top-500-nhs-bonus-make-tax-free/ Rubbish. The Scottish Government doesn't have the power to make bonuses tax-free. Nobody said that they could. ETA: Even the article you posted doesn't make the claim that the Scottish Government could not have paid £500 net. It provides a list of excuses why it wasn't done. No surprise you linked to it tbh, you both display similar behaviours. Edited March 8, 2021 by strichener 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 25 minutes ago, Stormzy said: If you could use your own words that would be helpful you absolute mouth breather. If you please explain how Bojo was largely responsible for her being locked up in the first place that would be wonderful but I'm guessing you can't because you're one of those idiotic posters that lives in your head whilst posting slavish drivel to please your fellow mentally deficient posters. You really need to read up on this a little and do some homework on this subject - and all the others you spout so much utter drivel on. Try it! Maybe come back on here in 1 years time when, with any luck, you might understand a little more. Maybe this will help get you started : https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/boris-johnson-nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-comments-iran-tory-leadership-debate-husband-richard-hunger-strike-303907 "In 2017, Mr Johnson, who was Foreign Secretary at the time, said Ms Zaghari-Ratcliffe had been working in Tehran training journalists. His comments were used by the country to allege she was engaged in “propaganda against the regime” and Mr Johnson was forced to apologise." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: You really need to read up on this a little and do some homework on this subject - and all the others you spout so much utter drivel on. Try it! Maybe come back on here in 1 years time when, with any luck, you might understand a little more. Maybe this will help get you started : https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/boris-johnson-nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-comments-iran-tory-leadership-debate-husband-richard-hunger-strike-303907 "In 2017, Mr Johnson, who was Foreign Secretary at the time, said Ms Zaghari-Ratcliffe had been working in Tehran training journalists. His comments were used by the country to allege she was engaged in “propaganda against the regime” and Mr Johnson was forced to apologise." Largely responsible??? Try using your own words now. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 44 minutes ago, Pato said: It's pretty obvious she was a spook and Johnson had been briefed on her cover and just blurted that out publicly instead of saying she was on holiday. Is that the sole evidence they used? Is Johnston accountable for Iranian policy? It seems to me that the main party at fault would be the Iranian regime here not funnily enough Boris Johnson. As an aside everytime we get these "arrested for being a spy" stories I always say, aye they're a spy, it wouldn't make the news if it was you or me (provided you're not a spy) -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 45 minutes ago, strichener said: Nobody said that they could. ETA: Even the article you posted doesn't make the claim that the Scottish Government could not have paid £500 net. It provides a list of excuses why it wasn't done. No surprise you linked to it tbh, you both display similar behaviours. To pay everyone £500 net it’s very likely that some people would need to be paid a different amount gross as there will be different tax depending upon circumstances. That would be time consuming and undoubtedly lead to criticism. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the snudge Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: https://www.thenational.scot/news/18912775.fact-check-snp-government-top-500-nhs-bonus-make-tax-free/ Rubbish. The Scottish Government doesn't have the power to make bonuses tax-free. They could have just gave us cheques 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 hour ago, ICTJohnboy said: You really need to read up on this a little and do some homework on this subject - and all the others you spout so much utter drivel on. Try it! Maybe come back on here in 1 years time when, with any luck, you might understand a little more. Maybe this will help get you started : https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/boris-johnson-nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-comments-iran-tory-leadership-debate-husband-richard-hunger-strike-303907 "In 2017, Mr Johnson, who was Foreign Secretary at the time, said Ms Zaghari-Ratcliffe had been working in Tehran training journalists. His comments were used by the country to allege she was engaged in “propaganda against the regime” and Mr Johnson was forced to apologise." I recall what at the time was a newsworthy story that had a strange undercurrent. It all seemed to be going swimmingly, diplomatic dances were had and she seemed destined for release. Up steps the bold Boris to declare her having another purpose and allowing the Iranians the opportunity to deny her release. So yes, the serial adulterer and liar is largely responsible for the circumstances surrounding her incarceration. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, sophia said: I recall what at the time was a newsworthy story that had a strange undercurrent. It all seemed to be going swimmingly, diplomatic dances were had and she seemed destined for release. Up steps the bold Boris to declare her having another purpose and allowing the Iranians the opportunity to deny her release. So yes, the serial adulterer and liar is largely responsible for the circumstances surrounding her incarceration. He was "largely responsible for her being banged up in the first place" by botching up her release. Makes sense. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Granny Danger said: To pay everyone £500 net it’s very likely that some people would need to be paid a different amount gross as there will be different tax depending upon circumstances. That would be time consuming and undoubtedly lead to criticism. As I said previously, here is how difficult it is on a cheap payroll package. Gross Payment Net Payment Not Really complicated given the in-built functionality of payroll systems. Edited March 8, 2021 by strichener 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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