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This is reminding me of when the DUP were receiving their bung for Northern Ireland in exchange for propping up the Tory government, and Unionists were wailing about how it would have gone to Scotland if the b*****d SNP would only have abandoned all principles for a bit of cash.

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The fact that BJ has put his oar in by demanding the release and return to the UK of Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe will almost certainly result in her being banged up again for god only knows how long. The great man, who was largely responsible for her being banged up in the first place, seems to have forgotten the debt of £400m owed to the Iranian government arising from the non delivery of chieftain tanks ordered by the Shah of Iran before his overthrow in 1979.

 

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On 06/03/2021 at 22:18, The Skelpit Lug said:

Is it not the case that Scottish government's devolved income tax powers doesn't allow it to exempt income tax on the bonus, only Westminster could?

Still crap, though.

 

 

The payment could have been £500 net.  There was nothing stopping the Scottish Government from doing this.

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9 minutes ago, strichener said:

The payment could have been £500 net.  There was nothing stopping the Scottish Government from doing this.

Yes, the Scottish Government should have calculated and paid the additional cash required for every single individual in the SNHS to get their £500.  It would be simplicity itself and not a fucking impossible task at all. Or HMRC could have just popped the £500 into the non-taxable column.

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8 hours ago, Baxter Parp said:

Yes, the Scottish Government should have calculated and paid the additional cash required for every single individual in the SNHS to get their £500.  It would be simplicity itself and not a fucking impossible task at all. Or HMRC could have just popped the £500 into the non-taxable column.

Spoken like a true contractor who has never used a payroll system.  I have a £120 per year product that has a single checkbox for each payment to indicate that it is a net payment.  It's right next to the checkboxes for making it NIC and/or tax free which would have been required in your "popping it into the non-taxable column".  So actually, yes simplicity itself.

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Spoken like a true contractor who has never used a payroll system.  I have a £120 per year product that has a single checkbox for each payment to indicate that it is a net payment.  It's right next to the checkboxes for making it NIC and/or tax free which would have been required in your "popping it into the non-taxable column".  So actually, yes simplicity itself.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/18912775.fact-check-snp-government-top-500-nhs-bonus-make-tax-free/

Rubbish. The Scottish Government doesn't have the power to make bonuses tax-free.
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10 hours ago, ICTJohnboy said:

The fact that BJ has put his oar in by demanding the release and return to the UK of Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe will almost certainly result in her being banged up again for god only knows how long. The great man, who was largely responsible for her being banged up in the first place, seems to have forgotten the debt of £400m owed to the Iranian government arising from the non delivery of chieftain tanks ordered by the Shah of Iran before his overthrow in 1979.

 

Some of you people are demented. 

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2 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:
8 minutes ago, Stormzy said:
Some of you people are demented. 

No, sonny, some of us pay attention.

And then make things up to suit your strange obsessions. 

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22 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said:

If you could use your own words that would be helpful you absolute mouth breather. 

If you please explain how Bojo was largely responsible for her being locked up in the first place that would be wonderful but I'm guessing you can't because you're one of those idiotic posters that lives in your head whilst posting slavish drivel to please your fellow mentally deficient posters. 

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2 hours ago, Baxter Parp said:

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18912775.fact-check-snp-government-top-500-nhs-bonus-make-tax-free/

Rubbish. The Scottish Government doesn't have the power to make bonuses tax-free.

Nobody said that they could.

ETA: Even the article you posted doesn't make the claim that the Scottish Government could not have paid £500 net.  It provides a list of excuses why it wasn't done.  No surprise you linked to it tbh, you both display similar behaviours.

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25 minutes ago, Stormzy said:

If you could use your own words that would be helpful you absolute mouth breather. 

If you please explain how Bojo was largely responsible for her being locked up in the first place that would be wonderful but I'm guessing you can't because you're one of those idiotic posters that lives in your head whilst posting slavish drivel to please your fellow mentally deficient posters. 

 

You really need to read up on this a little and do some homework on this subject - and all the others you spout so much utter drivel on. Try it! Maybe come back on here in 1 years time when, with any luck, you might understand a little more.

Maybe this will help get you started :

https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/boris-johnson-nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-comments-iran-tory-leadership-debate-husband-richard-hunger-strike-303907

"In 2017, Mr Johnson, who was Foreign Secretary at the time, said Ms Zaghari-Ratcliffe had been working in Tehran training journalists. His comments were used by the country to allege she was engaged in “propaganda against the regime” and Mr Johnson was forced to apologise."

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19 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said:

 

You really need to read up on this a little and do some homework on this subject - and all the others you spout so much utter drivel on. Try it! Maybe come back on here in 1 years time when, with any luck, you might understand a little more.

Maybe this will help get you started :

https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/boris-johnson-nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-comments-iran-tory-leadership-debate-husband-richard-hunger-strike-303907

"In 2017, Mr Johnson, who was Foreign Secretary at the time, said Ms Zaghari-Ratcliffe had been working in Tehran training journalists. His comments were used by the country to allege she was engaged in “propaganda against the regime” and Mr Johnson was forced to apologise."

Largely responsible??? 

Try using your own words now. 

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44 minutes ago, Pato said:

It's pretty obvious she was a spook and Johnson had been briefed on her cover and just blurted that out publicly instead of saying she was on holiday.

Is that the sole evidence they used? Is Johnston accountable for Iranian policy?  It seems to me that the main party at fault would be the Iranian regime here not funnily enough Boris Johnson. 

As an aside everytime we get these "arrested for being a spy" stories I always say, aye they're a spy, it wouldn't make the news if it was you or me (provided you're not a spy) 

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45 minutes ago, strichener said:

Nobody said that they could.

ETA: Even the article you posted doesn't make the claim that the Scottish Government could not have paid £500 net.  It provides a list of excuses why it wasn't done.  No surprise you linked to it tbh, you both display similar behaviours.

To pay everyone £500 net it’s very likely that some people would need to be paid a different amount gross as there will be different tax depending upon circumstances.  That would be time consuming and undoubtedly lead to criticism.

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1 hour ago, ICTJohnboy said:

 

You really need to read up on this a little and do some homework on this subject - and all the others you spout so much utter drivel on. Try it! Maybe come back on here in 1 years time when, with any luck, you might understand a little more.

Maybe this will help get you started :

https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/boris-johnson-nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-comments-iran-tory-leadership-debate-husband-richard-hunger-strike-303907

"In 2017, Mr Johnson, who was Foreign Secretary at the time, said Ms Zaghari-Ratcliffe had been working in Tehran training journalists. His comments were used by the country to allege she was engaged in “propaganda against the regime” and Mr Johnson was forced to apologise."

I recall what at the time was a newsworthy story that had a strange undercurrent.

It all seemed to be going swimmingly, diplomatic dances were had and she seemed destined for release.

Up steps the bold Boris to declare her having another purpose and allowing the Iranians the opportunity to deny her release.

So yes, the serial adulterer and liar is largely responsible for the circumstances surrounding her incarceration. 

 

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5 minutes ago, sophia said:

I recall what at the time was a newsworthy story that had a strange undercurrent.

It all seemed to be going swimmingly, diplomatic dances were had and she seemed destined for release.

Up steps the bold Boris to declare her having another purpose and allowing the Iranians the opportunity to deny her release.

So yes, the serial adulterer and liar is largely responsible for the circumstances surrounding her incarceration. 

 

He was "largely responsible for her being banged up in the first place" by botching up her release. 

Makes sense. 

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2 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

To pay everyone £500 net it’s very likely that some people would need to be paid a different amount gross as there will be different tax depending upon circumstances.  That would be time consuming and undoubtedly lead to criticism.

As I said previously, here is how difficult it is on a cheap payroll package.

Gross Payment

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Net Payment

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Not Really complicated given the in-built functionality of payroll systems.

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