Sergeant Wilson Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 20 hours ago, parsforlife said: blown out the water Good choice of words. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Pack Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Corbyn will get routed at this election. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 On 17/11/2019 at 14:49, Kuro said: Absolutely. George Washington was a 'terrorist'. He did chop down an innocent cherry tree. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Funny how gammons call Corbyn a terrorist but are wilfully ignorant to the fact that the tories currently employ an actual former member of the IRA - Maria Gatland.It’s also funny how gammons say “Corbyns a communist, we’d be living like Russians under him” yet the Tories are taking donations off of prominent Russians and their beloved leader Boris is supposedly mingling with the Russians at fancy wee parties.Don’t let facts get in the way though, CORBYNS A TERRORIST!!11!!1!1! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, jamamafegan said: Funny how gammons call Corbyn a terrorist but are wilfully ignorant to the fact that the tories currently employ an actual former member of the IRA - Maria Gatland. Quote Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism Quote A straw man is a form of argument and an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent.[1] One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man So people did not want to let this lie. Still no one has found much in the way of Corbyn condemning PIRA violence, calling for them to disarm, or much in the way of any support for the people of Northern Ireland having the right to self determination by choosing whether to be British or Irish by a referendum. Only calls for the UK government to give in to PIRA demands without much of a squeak about their murders. Believe what you want. Because without evidence that is all you have, faith in magical grandpa and his fairy tale's of what he was up too in the 80s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyAnchor Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 On 18/11/2019 at 11:08, Fullerene said: He did chop down an innocent cherry tree. Fake news 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, dorlomin said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man So people did not want to let this lie. Still no one has found much in the way of Corbyn condemning PIRA violence, calling for them to disarm, or much in the way of any support for the people of Northern Ireland having the right to self determination by choosing whether to be British or Irish by a referendum. Only calls for the UK government to give in to PIRA demands without much of a squeak about their murders. Believe what you want. Because without evidence that is all you have, faith in magical grandpa and his fairy tale's of what he was up too in the 80s. Why should only the people of northern Ireland get a say? What about the republic? We invaded, colonised and divided their country. Can you show British prime ministers condemning our violence in Ireland over the course of hundreds of years not just the troubles? You seem to not be understanding he just agrees with the republican position, as do a lot.of people, because ultimately they're right. Only demented British nationalists can't see that. We are the bad guys. Corbyn has repeatedly condemned all violence, but because he didn't do it in a sash singing the Billy boys and didn't specifically just condemn the violence of the evil papists whilst dismissing ours that's not good enough for britnats like you. Edited November 20, 2019 by Kuro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man So people did not want to let this lie. Still no one has found much in the way of Corbyn condemning PIRA violence, calling for them to disarm, or much in the way of any support for the people of Northern Ireland having the right to self determination by choosing whether to be British or Irish by a referendum. Only calls for the UK government to give in to PIRA demands without much of a squeak about their murders. Believe what you want. Because without evidence that is all you have, faith in magical grandpa and his fairy tale's of what he was up too in the 80s. It’s not whataboutery, it’s sheer hypocrisy and stupidity you absolute creep. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, Kuro said: Why should only the people of northern Ireland get a say? Quote The right of a people to self-determination is a cardinal principle in modern international law (commonly regarded as a jus cogens rule), binding, as such, on the United Nations as authoritative interpretation of the Charter's norms.[1][2] It states that people, based on respect for the principle of equal rights and fair equality of opportunity, have the right to freely choose their sovereignty and international political status with no interference.[3] The concept was first expressed in the 1860s, and spread rapidly thereafter.[4][5] During and after World War I, the principle was encouraged by both Vladimir Lenin and United States President Woodrow Wilson.[4][5] Having announced his Fourteen Points on 8 January 1918, on 11 February 1918 Wilson stated: "National aspirations must be respected; people may now be dominated and governed only by their own consent. 'Self determination' is not a mere phrase; it is an imperative principle of action."[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-determination 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 On 18/11/2019 at 18:08, Fullerene said: He did chop down an innocent cherry tree. That story was the first example of "throwing a dead cat on the table", to cover up popping the cherry of a slave girl. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, dorlomin said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-determination And the people of Ireland have the same right, it's their country too. We artificially created a vassal.state, that does not supercede the rights of people all over Ireland. Did you read that quote btw? You don't think Britain's actions in Ireland constitute 'interference'? Do you.also think the UK I currently interfering in Scotland's right to.the same? Edited November 20, 2019 by Kuro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Corbyn signs early day motion commemorating IRA victims and condemns violence Corbyn says 'IRA were terrorists' It's for the Irish people to decide 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Corbyn signs early day motion commemorating IRA victims and condemns violence Corbyn says 'IRA were terrorists' It's for the Irish people to decide He didn't do it at a life press conference at ibrox with johnny adair by his side so it doesn't count to crazed yoons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Corbyn could spend the whole election campaign singing “go on home British soldiers” and I’d still far rather he was prime minister than Johnson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) The Tories are in coalition with the DUP right now, the DUP who today not in the past literally right now pose for pictures and share a stage with loyalist terrorists. So is dorlomin calling on boris johnson to condemn loyalist violence? I must have missed that. Edited November 20, 2019 by Kuro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 25 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Corbyn signs early day motion commemorating IRA victims and condemns violence No such Early Day Motion exists in 1994 Nothing condemning the IRA at any rate. Perhaps its another of his "condemning all violence" or something along his usual smirking gloating style. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Kuro said: The Tories are in coalition with the DUP right now, the DUP who today not in the past literally right now pose for pictures and share a stage with loyalist terrorists. So is dorlomin calling on boris johnson to condemn loyalist violence? I must have missed that. Perhaps you have a subnormal IQ and thus cannot read. On 16/11/2019 at 16:57, dorlomin said: And again, the Conservatives plans to prevent investigation of possible unlawful killings by UK soldiers and their alliance with the DUP means that they have little claim to moral superiority on this issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, dorlomin said: No such Early Day Motion exists in 1994 Nothing condemning the IRA at any rate. Perhaps its another of his "condemning all violence" or something along his usual smirking gloating style. Condemning all violence is what all right minded people do. You don't want that, you want him.specifically to condemn just THEIR violence and he on your side. But he isn't a demented colonialist like you so he doesnt and that's what bothers you. Have you similar concerns about Johnson not condemning loyalist violence and literal terrorists and terrorist sympathisers being in government right now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, dorlomin said: Perhaps you have a subnormal IQ and thus cannot read. I don't see you demanding Johnson personally condemn anything there. Why don't you expect the same from him as you do corbyn? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man So people did not want to let this lie. Still no one has found much in the way of Corbyn condemning PIRA violence, calling for them to disarm, or much in the way of any support for the people of Northern Ireland having the right to self determination by choosing whether to be British or Irish by a referendum. Only calls for the UK government to give in to PIRA demands without much of a squeak about their murders. Believe what you want. Because without evidence that is all you have, faith in magical grandpa and his fairy tale's of what he was up too in the 80s. It's been pointed out regularly that Corbyn was speaking up for those who were being painted as "terrorist bad" in the British media. This was absolutely required in order to create the space that allowed the peace process to continue. The British govt were speaking to the IRA secretly, and Corbyn was doing the same without the secrecy. It's hilarious that you're still trying to portray him as some sort of balaclava wearing terrorist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.