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1 minute ago, Adders said:

How badly did you need the run? N be careful of running in the road, well that's another story! 

What harm was he inflicting by going for a run whilst maintaining a safe distance from people? Genuine question. 

To reiterate, I’m not criticising the lockdown at all. I’m criticising the preposterous and sanctimonious judgement being expressed on people who are adhering to the government guidelines and going for a safe walk/run/cycle each day. 

Going for a walk whilst maintaining social distance isn’t what is killing people. It is the government’s failure to plan for this scenario (by developing proper testing regimes, for example) and failure to implement the lockdown soon enough (leading to the grotesque spectacle of 250,000 people at Cheltenham festival, for example) which is to blame.

Singling out lone joggers for blame does nothing but get the government off the hook for their abysmal policy response, but feel free to disparage me for going for a 5km run along streets with nobody else on them. 

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1 hour ago, The OP said:

Kudos to the cyclists who have realised that they can ride their bikes on fairway like grass next to the path if they want to pass a jogger or a walker and death to all those who still persist with the "ring your bell like f**k in the hope they have eyes in the back of their head" method. 

At least the ones around your way bother to ring a bell. 

I only ever seem to encounter cyclists that suddenly whizz up behind me and then moan/tut when they realise that neither myself or my dog have quite mastered the art of teleportation.

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If there was genuine scrutiny of the decimation of the NHS over the past 15 years and the mishandling of the crisis to date it could have a significant effect on the Conservative Party.
Best way to avoid this is to have no real scrutiny.
I'm sorry you feel there was failings. I just want to praise the wonderful nhs.

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The majority of people in lockdown don't have large fancy house's, to use that as a generalisation is wrong as is saying its safe to go out and exercise, unless you know something the rest of the world doesn't, the risk is slightly lower, but not safe! The point of the whole thing is being missed totally from your view point, we're not being told to just stay in our flats all day, we're being told to stay at home to help protect our own lives the lives of others and to ease the strain on the NHS, as i said earlier the benefits to mental health and well-being come from exercising which can be done at home weather in a flat a house or dare i say a cell, not going outside! What are we actually saying when we claiming that self harm and mental health will be an issue because we're having to stop at home, it's where we live ffs, fair enough it's not ideal,, neither is 10 000 deaths, n counting. 
It's surely significantly less than 'slightly lower'.

Contact is absolutely minimal if at all in my experience so far.
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18 minutes ago, jagfox99 said:

 

More expert analysis from bizarre sources..........

 

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Outdoor exercise scum top five in order.

1. People who travel by car to do a hobby.
2. Cyclists who go miles away from the house.
3. Family groups who take up entire pavement. Not moving.
4. Joggers who run miles away from their home.
5. Solo walkers who do the same.

They're all at it.


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4 minutes ago, VladimirMooc said:

What harm was he inflicting by going for a run whilst maintaining a safe distance from people? Genuine question. 

To reiterate, I’m not criticising the lockdown at all. I’m criticising the preposterous and sanctimonious judgement being expressed on people who are adhering to the government guidelines and going for a safe walk/run/cycle each day. 

Going for a walk whilst maintaining social distance isn’t what is killing people. It is the government’s failure to plan for this scenario (by developing proper testing regimes, for example) and failure to implement the lockdown soon enough (leading to the grotesque spectacle of 250,000 people at Cheltenham festival, for example) which is to blame.

Singling out lone joggers for blame does nothing but get the government off the hook for their abysmal policy response, but feel free to disparage me for going for a 5km run along streets with nobody else on them. 

Well neither me or you know what  harm is done for sure do we, even the experts don't know enough at present, the virus may be infectious on the ground outside who knows, i prefer not to use hope as a tactic! N my main issues is with the incompetent government, we need law n order not guidelines! I do wonder though how many of these hard-core athletes would still go for there hourly jog if it raining out or snow on the ground? I'm guessing, not so much, so again how important is it? People will continue to justify there actions until they can't, i.e somebody they hold dear passes? 

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Well neither me or you know what  harm is done for sure do we, even the experts don't know enough at present, the virus may be infectious on the ground outside who knows, i prefer not to use hope as a tactic! N my main issues is with the incompetent government, we need law n order not guidelines! I do wonder though how many of these hard-core athletes would still go for there hourly jog if it raining out or snow on the ground? I'm guessing, not so much, so again how important is it? People will continue to justify there actions until they can't, i.e somebody they hold dear passes? 
Obvs a big concern for any joggers out there planning on licking the ground.
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5 minutes ago, Adders said:

Well neither me or you know what  harm is done for sure do we, even the experts don't know enough at present, the virus may be infectious on the ground outside who knows, i prefer not to use hope as a tactic! N my main issues is with the incompetent government, we need law n order not guidelines! I do wonder though how many of these hard-core athletes would still go for there hourly jog if it raining out or snow on the ground? I'm guessing, not so much, so again how important is it? People will continue to justify there actions until they can't, i.e somebody they hold dear passes? 

Loads of people run in the rain regularly including me. 

Parks belong to runners and dog walkers. Everyone else is just visiting.

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3 minutes ago, Adders said:

Well neither me or you know what  harm is done for sure do we, even the experts don't know enough at present, the virus may be infectious on the ground outside who knows, i prefer not to use hope as a tactic! N my main issues is with the incompetent government, we need law n order not guidelines! I do wonder though how many of these hard-core athletes would still go for there hourly jog if it raining out or snow on the ground? I'm guessing, not so much, so again how important is it? People will continue to justify there actions until they can't, i.e somebody they hold dear passes? 

There could be coronavirus in the water, nobody knows for sure, so don't drink any or brush your teeth. What if someone you love dies because you brushed your teeth? 

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2 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

The Italian Government has said that some businesses might not be allowed to reopen until a vaccine is found. Which, of course, could be years or never.

A vaccine may never be found? That's news iv not heard before, what like never ever be found? Wow, that's a big call 

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8 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

Outdoor exercise scum top five in order.

1. People who travel by car to do a hobby.
2. Cyclists who go miles away from the house.
3. Family groups who take up entire pavement. Not moving.
4. Joggers who run miles away from their home.
5. Solo walkers who do the same.

They're all at it.

 

Stay in the house m8

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29 minutes ago, VladimirMooc said:

What harm was he inflicting by going for a run whilst maintaining a safe distance from people? Genuine question. 

To reiterate, I’m not criticising the lockdown at all. I’m criticising the preposterous and sanctimonious judgement being expressed on people who are adhering to the government guidelines and going for a safe walk/run/cycle each day. 

Going for a walk whilst maintaining social distance isn’t what is killing people. It is the government’s failure to plan for this scenario (by developing proper testing regimes, for example) and failure to implement the lockdown soon enough (leading to the grotesque spectacle of 250,000 people at Cheltenham festival, for example) which is to blame.

Singling out lone joggers for blame does nothing but get the government off the hook for their abysmal policy response, but feel free to disparage me for going for a 5km run along streets with nobody else on them. 

Tories encouraging people to blame individuals for the prevalence of Covid-19 instead of investigating further the chronic underfunding of the NHS, the lack of a clear plan, the slowness of the reaction time and the actions of Boris not taking it seriously but sure it is the fault of those who live in a small flat going out for a socially responsible walk. 

 

Divide and rule the people - 

It's the fault of benefit claimants not the failure to tax corporations efficiently. 

It was the fault of drunken fans not the decrepit stadium and lack of safety procedures. 

It's the fault of scrounging immigrants not the failure to fund schools and the NHS properly. 

CALL THIS DAILY MAIL PREMIUM PHONE NUMBER TO GRASS ON SOMEONE IN A PARK - EVEN BETTER IF THEY ARE "ALL GROWN UP" AND HAVE AN INSTA PAGE. 

 

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6 minutes ago, Adders said:

Well neither me or you know what  harm is done for sure do we, even the experts don't know enough at present, the virus may be infectious on the ground outside who knows, i prefer not to use hope as a tactic! N my main issues is with the incompetent government, we need law n order not guidelines! I do wonder though how many of these hard-core athletes would still go for there hourly jog if it raining out or snow on the ground? I'm guessing, not so much, so again how important is it? People will continue to justify there actions until they can't, i.e somebody they hold dear passes? 

There’s a lot to unpack here. But safe to say I don’t feel any need to “justify” my actions of going for a socially distanced run or walk every day with someone who is concerned about Coronavirus “on the ground.”

Maybe you’re right though. Maybe we should avoid all “ground” and the government should invest in an elaborate series of ropes - a sort of pan-country Go Ape - to allow for the delivery of essential supplies. 

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Just now, VladimirMooc said:

There’s a lot to unpack here. But safe to say I don’t feel any need to “justify” my actions of going for a socially distanced run or walk every day with someone who is concerned about Coronavirus “on the ground.”

Maybe you’re right though. Maybe we should avoid all “ground” and the government should invest in an elaborate series of ropes - a sort of pan-country Go Ape - to allow for the delivery of essential supplies. 

Joins a football and goes straight to a thread about a virus to say controversial stuff, why are you responding?

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