Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Blootoon87]

Please tell your boss i think hes a c**t.

Will do. You're right by the way.

[Alert Mongoose]

3 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Scotland's figures show the death rate for those under 44 is extremely low.

I still feel that the first relaxation should be to allow those under 50 to return to work etc unless shielding, or living with / caring for someone who is shielding.

After the next 3 weeks are up, if numbers of new cases have fallen considerably, it makes little sense to continue to effectively quarantine many people who are statistically unlikely to develop serious or fatal infections.

That’s some fucking jump once you hit 45. I’m not looking forward to that birthday.

[Blootoon87]

Another 847 today.

[Todd_is_God]

1 minute ago, Alert Mongoose said:

That’s some fucking jump once you hit 45. I’m not looking forward to that birthday.

I have nothing to back this up, but i suspect most of those 108 will be closer to 64 than 45!

[eindhovendee]

1 minute ago, Alert Mongoose said:

That’s some fucking jump once you hit 45. I’m not looking forward to that birthday.

As I am in the 45-64 group I clapped an extra 5 minutes last night to make up for some posters not clapping.

Can see me clapping for 15 minutes next week.

[Wee Willie]

2 hours ago, WATTOO said:

You're probably right, that's what happens when you've grown up in the Thatcher era with a sense of hopelessness coupled with anger and a deep routed hatred.

Speaking personally, there's no doubt I'm very cynical and have a chip on my shoulder, however it's not without good reason.

Me as well and also neither of us are The Rangers supporters

1 hour ago, bendan said:

I genuinely struggle to understand some of the hysteria around this. Death is obviously a terrible thing for families/friends/acquaintances to experience, but I don't see why as a society we see a given number of covid-19 deaths in a given group of people as being something of far greater concern than other, equally avoidable deaths. 

Speak for yourself, I'm 77 and have underlying health issues

1 hour ago, O'Kelly Isley III said:

Perhaps we're all simply less gullible than many in the UK, and we can see right through the current curtain of deception.

We do grieve loss, personally and collectively, but the average Scot has a sense of the fitness of things and we don't need politicians, celebrities, broadcasters and God forbid, the gilded freakshow of The House of Windsor to assist us in that process, let alone touch-feely television appeals.

Well said sir/madam

[doulikefish]

3 minutes ago, eindhovendee said:

As I am in the 45-64 group I clapped an extra 5 minutes last night to make up for some posters not clapping.

Can see me clapping for 15 minutes next week.

I havent clapped yet so cheers for covering for me

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

Will do. You're right by the way.

Id be delighted if you’d tell me his reaction. Tell him to bring his maw to Ruel Street.

[Melanius Mullarkey]

1 hour ago, Snafu said:

I saw that as well, impressive.

Do you think it will catch on here?

 

35 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

Tell them to shave it off then

^^^ pair of arsecarpets

[Sergeant Wilson]

19 minutes ago, coprolite said:

A bit of the good book for them:

Matthew 6

1

"Be careful not to do your `acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.

2

"So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.

3

But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing,

4

so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

5

"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.

6

But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

Exactly, the Bible says people who clap are trumpets.

[bendan]

1 hour ago, ayrmad said:

I'm certainly not hysterical, your posting in a knowledgeable manner whilst showing as little grasp as VT, don't know if you're coming at this from some sort of political angle or not but it feels like it. 

Where would all these lovely graphs from ONS have been if we didn't encourage social distancing and introduce our lockdown, IMO it's better to overestimate than underestimate with this particular virus. 

I'm certainly not coming at it from a political angle. I'm only interested in evidence; evidence-based decision making, evidence-based media reporting and evidence-based risk assessment.

I've been following what's been happening in Germany, and I'd asy the government, media and population at large have generally, though not always, taken a much more rational approach to this. Merkel was in a press conference the other day giving a very technical answer about the implications of various R0 rates. If it was the UK, the politician couldn't have done that, the media wouldn't have asked the question, and the public wouldn't have been interested anyway, because all three are not really interested in the facts.

[D.A.F.C]

48 minutes ago, greendot said:

Shut it you slag!

 No, you shut it you slag!

[jagfox]

[mizfit]

307 new cases in Scotland, yesterday there was 354 new cases. Are we currently plateauing on the curve or is it a genuine downturn in cases?

[jagfox]

8 minutes ago, mizfit said:

307 new cases in Scotland, yesterday there was 354 new cases. Are we currently plateauing on the curve or is it a genuine downturn in cases?

The medical guy on the Scot gov press conference reckoned the r0 was <1 which is good. However we need to make sure before loosening partial lockdown measures.

Edited April 17, 2020 by jagfox99

[ayrmad]

2 minutes ago, bendan said:

I'm certainly not coming at it from a political angle. I'm only interested in evidence; evidence-based decision making, evidence-based media reporting and evidence-based risk assessment.

I've been following what's been happening in Germany, and I'd asy the government, media and population at large have generally, though not always, taken a much more rational approach to this. Merkel was in a press conference the other day giving a very technical answer about the implications of various R0 rates. If it was the UK, the politician couldn't have done that, the media wouldn't have asked the question, and the public wouldn't have been interested anyway, because all three are not really interested in the facts.

That just highlights where we are as a population, I'm really interested in what happens in Sweden, not looking great at the moment but I'm hoping their calculations used an R0 that over estimates rather than under, 15/20 iterations at 2.5 is markedly different to that at 3, even differing timeframes for each iteration has a huge impact on the numbers, be interested to know what if any contact tracing they're doing as well. 

[bendan]

2 minutes ago, mizfit said:

307 new cases in Scotland, yesterday there was 354 new cases. Are we currently plateauing on the curve or is it a genuine downturn in cases?

Well the last ten days have been:

336

392

318

315

322

155

291

390

354

307

I don't think those stats tell us much other than it's not rising significantly. Other stats like ambulance calls and ICU patients suggest things are getting a bit better.

[bendan]

4 minutes ago, ayrmad said:

That just highlights where we are as a population, I'm really interested in what happens in Sweden, not looking great at the moment but I'm hoping their calculations used an R0 that over estimates rather than under, 15/20 iterations at 2.5 is markedly different to that at 3, even differing timeframes for each iteration has a huge impact on the numbers, be interested to know what if any contact tracing they're doing as well. 

Sweden is definitely interesting, though they themselves are at pains to point out that they are doing social distancing, just with more self policing.

[Sergeant Wilson]

9 minutes ago, mizfit said:

307 new cases in Scotland, yesterday there was 354 new cases. Are we currently plateauing on the curve or is it a genuine downturn in cases?

The civil servant that counts them probably took a half day.

Edited April 17, 2020 by Sergeant Wilson

[Herman Hessian]

36 minutes ago, coprolite said:

2  "So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.

15 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

Exactly, the Bible says people who clap are trumpets.

if P&B has given me anything, it's the now chronic inability to read the word 'trumpet' in any context whatsoever without laughing...

but then that may have its roots in the original reports of Roy Castle's death from lung cancer brought on by inhaling secondary smoke through his trumpet...