Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Dan Steele]

3 minutes ago, WATTOO said:

will be interesting to see how this "broadly 5 miles" advice works for the likes of Golf ?

Speaking personally, I live "roughly" 7 miles from my golf course

Then just think on the course being broadly 5 miles away, then. It's not as if we're being given a designated police officer each. Common sense should be applied, maybe?

[Todd_is_God]

NS quite clearly said it wasn't going to be enforced.

The idea is that people don't start driving across the country for a picnic, potentially spreading the virus from area to area

Edited May 22, 2020 by Todd_is_God

[welshbairn]

5 minutes ago, WATTOO said:

Sorry if this annoys anyone

I think it's awful that Nicola hasn't sent you a personalised breakdown of what exactly you can and can't do in your precise circumstances.

Enjoy the golf! 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, The Skelpit Lug said:

Then just think on the course being broadly 5 miles away, then. It's not as if we're being given a designated police officer each. Common sense should be applied, maybe?

Yes, don't get me wrong I've every intention of playing but my worry would be that the clubs themselves are threatened about policing it and could be at risk of losing their licence or fines if seen to be breaching ?

I know that they've been asked to keep tee sheets data for 6 weeks for contact tracing purposes (which is fair enough of course).

[Todd_is_God]

2 minutes ago, Snafu said:

Like the deaths in care homes certain detached morons might call this collateral damage or inevitable.

The morons are the ones claiming one life is worth more than the economy.

The 'morons' you are referring to have been pointing out the obvious long term effects for ages.

[coprolite]

35 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

I will get my state pension from next year and do not have a problem with the triple lock being removed.

However, the idea that the country/economy is fucked because of the state pension being too high has been debunked so many times.  The U.K. state pension is one of the lowest in Europe.  Yet otherwise intelligent people buy into it because it suits their agenda.

The Tories must piss themselves laughing every time young/younger people blame pensioners for everything.

1 It lets them (the Tories) off the hook.  People blaming the pensioners rather than the money being wasted on Trident, multi-national tax avoidance and private delivery of public services suits the Tories perfectly.

2 It allows the Tories to become the champions of the pensioners ensuring that a disproportionate number of pensioners continue to vote for the cùnts.

3 Most importantly for the Tories it creates division in society.  Far easier to manipulate a divided society that one that sees their interests aligned.

Fortunately we have a flicker of hope in Scotland.

The triple lock is sleight of hand of the most cynical kind.

It makes it look like the elderly poor are being given special help by getting guaranteed inflation proof rise in income. 

It successfully distracts from the fact that the actual level of the pension just about covers utilities and basic food. 

[dirty dingus]

I think using a bit of common sense for outdoor activites such as hiking, fishing and golf are all they are asking. Don't go to the mountains in Skye if your from Glasgow when you can go to Ben Lomond or the Cobbler same scenario with fishing and golf, stay local.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

I think it's awful that Nicola hasn't sent you a personalised breakdown of what exactly you can and can't do in your precise circumstances.

Enjoy the golf! 

She did E-mail me actually (being an SNP member) but it was all rather generic !!

Yes, I get your point and I have acknowledged that I am looking at this from a purely selfish perspective !!!

[beefybake]

3 hours ago, Thereisalight.. said:

 

My mum doesn’t have a smart phone, or any phone other than a landline. She also doesn’t drive. Asda is the supermarket she goes to. I always wondered what would happen if these measures were still in place come Autumn/winter when the weather can be atrocious. I know quite a few elderly people around my neighbourhood who get the bus to Asda and then back home. I doubt all (or even any) of them have a smart phone.

No one is suggesting that someone who doesn't have a smartphone, or a car won't be allowed in to Asda.

('Sake)

Autumn is far away.

[Melanius Mullarkey]

4 hours ago, invergowrie arab said:

RIP The White Horse Inn. Gone but not forgotten 

Blimey. Forgot about that. Don’t think I ever made it in.

[coprolite]

10 minutes ago, Snafu said:

This from The Spectator -

''UK debt jumps to 98 per cent of GDP

How much will the Covid-19 crisis cost? With the economy in freefall, it’s hard to guess – but the first hard data today shows that even the worst-case scenarios might be too optimistic. The net debt for April stood at £1,887.6 billion, or 98 per cent of GDP. It was pushed up by government departmental spending that jumped to £91.4 billion last month, vs £55.8 billion for April last year. That’s an increase of 64 per cent, and only £5.2 billion was the cost of the government’s job retention programme. That’s eight years’ progress of deficit reduction undone in a matter of weeks. Remarkably, VAT receipts were negative: the government refunded £900 million more than it took in. Strange days.

And the reaction of the markets? To shrug and invite the government to borrow even more. The yield on the five-year gilt fell 0.017 points to -0.017 per cent – so the Treasury is being paid to borrow. This will not help Rishi Sunak make the case for fiscal prudence. No. 10 (which has always tended to argue that the deficit is big enough to look after itself) will see the market’s reaction and ask: what’s the problem? As Fraser Nelson argues in his Daily Telegraph column, the problem is that a crippled economy will claim lives. For example, recent UK experience shows that every one per cent rise in unemployment causes a 2 per cent rise in the caseload of chronic disease. If this crash is as bad as the last one (at present, it’s far worse), it will mean almost half a million more cases of mental health problems and a million more people with chronic diseases. Poverty kills as surely as Covid-19 – but more quietly and in a way that’s clear only in retrospect.''

Like the deaths in care homes certain detached morons might call this collateral damage or inevitable.

The first half of that is about fiscal policy which has no obvious link to the statement of the obvious that the economy keeps people alive. 

Obviously i'm not going to pay the tory fanzine subscription to read fraser nelson's drivel, but i'd love to hear the logic. 

Equating the increased government debt with "cost" is a category error to start with. Most of it is likely to be a transfer. 

[mizfit]

I think using a bit of common sense for outdoor activites such as hiking, fishing and golf are all they are asking. Don't go to the mountains in Skye if your from Glasgow when you can go to Ben Lomond or the Cobbler same scenario with fishing and golf, stay local.

That was the gist I got. I’m quite happy, there’s plenty of good walks I know around Perthshire that are always dead so I’ll be going around about them instead of my boring walk to the city centre and back everyday. Can’t wait to be honest.

[Granny Danger]

1 minute ago, coprolite said:

The first half of that is about fiscal policy which has no obvious link to the statement of the obvious that the economy keeps people alive. 

Obviously i'm not going to pay the tory fanzine subscription to read fraser nelson's drivel, but i'd love to hear the logic. 

Equating the increased government debt with "cost" is a category error to start with. Most of it is likely to be a transfer. 

The two most ironic words in that are “poverty kills”.  I wonder how many Spectator readers equate that fact to the effects of the Tory austerity policies of the last 10 years.

[coprolite]

3 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

The two most ironic words in that are “poverty kills”.  I wonder how many Spectator readers equate that fact to the effects of the Tory austerity policies of the last 10 years.

People are poor because Gordon Brown gave all the money to immigrants 

[Doctor Manhattan]

2 hours ago, The Moonster said:

Both instances probably lasted no longer than 5-10 seconds and neither of them inconvenienced him in any way whatsoever. It's knicker wetting.

It's not mutually exclusive. Even if Pozbaird is the sort of over-reacting misanthropic auld bollocks that would make Victor Meldrew look jovial, it doesn't mean that the other pair aren't spectacularly stupid c***s too. My own philosophy, sadly based on considerable experience, is to expect every new person I meet to be an absolute c**t until proven otherwise.

That might just be a Motherwell thing, though.

Edited May 22, 2020 by Doctor Manhattan
ETA: Just seen Mark Connolly's post. Glad I'm not the only miserable c**t...

[Todd_is_God]

4 minutes ago, Snafu said:

Blimey, did I say that?

Re reading my post just to be on the sure side and then 'reading between the lines' I then looked at it upsides down and then with my reading glasses, .............nope.

If you are referring to the morons you think I called morons then you just admitted you knew they knew about this for a long time without doing anything about it, which makes sense given the governments track record of doing nothing until its too late.

I wouldn't start making excuses for these heartless c**ts.

I wasn't making excuses for them.

Maybe i misinterpreted who you were calling morons

[John Lambies Doos]

What a weird shape that Patel is

[Guest Bob Mahelp]

I can't help thinking that this nutcase 2 week quarantine idea, is simply the Tories appealing to the braindead xenophobes who support them. 

'We're helping the British people by keeping these diseased foreigners out'

 

 

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

I can't help thinking that this nutcase 2 week quarantine idea, is simply the Tories appealing to the braindead xenophobes who support them. 
'We're helping the British people by keeping these diseased foreigners out'
 
 

Of course it is. There’s no logical reason for people in countries where there is a very low risk of the virus and proper contact tracing to have to quarantine on arrival here.

[Wee Willie]

1 hour ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

What you need is for Morrison's to bring in a rival app wee fella who will nip over the Kadikoi and let you know when it's your turn.

My local supermarket is Morrisons and I'm a wee fella as my nom de guerre states.

But I bide in Perth and I've only got a wee mobility scooter for transport.